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The impudence of Microsoft has reached new (criminal?) heights
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joeqsmith:
 :-DD  Years ago I wrote how I was using Wireshark and saw were even pressing a number key on the MS calculator causes the OS to send the data up to MS.   

I'm still using a WRT router to block all MS traffic.   To install the BLE software for Dave's 121GW,  I had to pull it from the store.  I let my guard down just long enough for them to push a new update which had additional IPs that had to be accounted for.   I have not changed anything after that.   10 still tries to send data non-stop but at least the PC is usable.

I had been using an old version of Firefox but recently was forced to "upgrade".   I pitched FF and tried Opera for a day,  until I learned it was sold off to China.  Then I tried Vivaldi and ran into problems with it that I wasn't smart enough to sort out.  So now it's back to FF and setting the admin rights to block its updates.    Too bad really as I like Vivaldi. 
SilverSolder:

--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on June 20, 2020, 05:20:51 pm ---
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And then why a preinstalled, but non-essential app can't be uninstalled is fricking annoying. It may not be an MS issue per se (but as for MS, I still warn people about this app.)
The fact it was drawing a lot of power with also abnormal data consumption, although I have no proof of what it does, doesn't look good.


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I have noticed the same thing with Android -  a whole class of applications that cannot be uninstalled?   :wtf:

Sadly, this seems to just be part of the "conspiracy" to force telemetry and tracking down everyone's throats - can you think of any other plausible reason? 

NiHaoMike:

--- Quote from: joeqsmith on June 20, 2020, 05:47:46 pm ---Years ago I wrote how I was using Wireshark and saw were even pressing a number key on the MS calculator causes the OS to send the data up to MS.   

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Time to compile a list of suspected "telemetry" so that we'll know where to inject fake data?
SilverSolder:

--- Quote from: joeqsmith on June 20, 2020, 05:47:46 pm --- :-DD  Years ago I wrote how I was using Wireshark and saw were even pressing a number key on the MS calculator causes the OS to send the data up to MS.   

I'm still using a WRT router to block all MS traffic.   To install the BLE software for Dave's 121GW,  I had to pull it from the store.  I let my guard down just long enough for them to push a new update which had additional IPs that had to be accounted for.   I have not changed anything after that.   10 still tries to send data non-stop but at least the PC is usable.

I had been using an old version of Firefox but recently was forced to "upgrade".   I pitched FF and tried Opera for a day,  until I learned it was sold off to China.  Then I tried Vivaldi and ran into problems with it that I wasn't smart enough to sort out.  So now it's back to FF and setting the admin rights to block its updates.    Too bad really as I like Vivaldi.

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What happened with Vivaldi for you?  -  I've got it playing all four seasons here! :D
SilverSolder:

--- Quote from: NiHaoMike on June 20, 2020, 07:36:14 pm ---
--- Quote from: joeqsmith on June 20, 2020, 05:47:46 pm ---Years ago I wrote how I was using Wireshark and saw were even pressing a number key on the MS calculator causes the OS to send the data up to MS.   

--- End quote ---
Time to compile a list of suspected "telemetry" so that we'll know where to inject fake data?

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The ultimate solution is probably to disconnect any "serious" computer from the Internet,  and have a separate machine just for browsing the Internet....   either that, or a separate firewall product that can completely block all communications with the surveillance capitalist mother ships.
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