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The impudence of Microsoft has reached new (criminal?) heights
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Mr. Scram:

--- Quote from: Red Squirrel on July 11, 2020, 08:51:14 pm ---Windows 10 is basically malware, I don't get why so many people put up with it. Just hearing all the crap they pull off pisses me off enough to never want to touch that junk. 

And MS needs to give up with their failed IE experiment.  Renaming it to something else is not going to change the fact that it's a crappy browser.  They need to just give it up and ship with Firefox or something.

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Except that it's an entirely different browser, not just a rename.
Mr. Scram:

--- Quote from: tom66 on July 11, 2020, 10:06:39 pm ---Edge is a good browser, based on Chromium.  But, people are right to be skeptical of Microsoft's intentions with Edge.  They want it to be dominant so they can dictate standards like Google does, and I'd sooner trust Google's standards intention (generally favouring open standards although certainly not privacy-centric) than Microsoft's.

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It's beyond skepticism. They introduced the browser by installing it unasked in an exceptionally intrusive manner. It's full of telemetry. Microsoft's intentions are loud and clear. This browser will be adopted whether we want to or not.
SilverSolder:

--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on July 11, 2020, 10:09:34 pm ---
--- Quote from: tom66 on July 11, 2020, 10:06:39 pm ---Edge is a good browser, based on Chromium.  But, people are right to be skeptical of Microsoft's intentions with Edge.  They want it to be dominant so they can dictate standards like Google does, and I'd sooner trust Google's standards intention (generally favouring open standards although certainly not privacy-centric) than Microsoft's.

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It's beyond skepticism. They introduced thr browser by installing it unasked in an exceptionally intrusive manner. It's full of telemetry. Microsoft's intentions are loud and clear. This browser will be adopted whether we want to or not.

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Nobody is forcing us to use it...  right?
Mr. Scram:

--- Quote from: SilverSolder on July 12, 2020, 04:31:45 am ---Nobody is forcing us to use it...  right?

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They're strong arm tactics. I don't think whether actually having a choice makes a difference for most of the Windows users. Considering Microsoft's history with fines for not presenting people with a decent enough choice it seems they haven't learnt their lesson.
vk4ffab:

--- Quote from: NiHaoMike on July 04, 2020, 03:32:29 pm ---It doesn't have to affect the data analysis for it to work. Just making the searches uses their resources while using little on your end.

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In all seriousness, the only way to win, is to turn off your computer. Consume less online, gives them less data. I seriously only use about 20 websites. The big data harvesters are social media, facebook, tiktoc, instagram, twiter. The less we feed them the better.
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