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The impudence of Microsoft has reached new (criminal?) heights
Mr. Scram:
--- Quote from: vk4ffab on July 12, 2020, 10:53:47 am ---In all seriousness, the only way to win, is to turn off your computer. Consume less online, gives them less data. I seriously only use about 20 websites. The big data harvesters are social media, facebook, tiktoc, instagram, twiter. The less we feed them the better.
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Please don't start that "discussion" again. :palm:
SilverSolder:
--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on July 12, 2020, 06:51:53 am ---
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on July 12, 2020, 04:31:45 am ---Nobody is forcing us to use it... right?
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They're strong arm tactics. I don't think whether actually having a choice makes a difference for most of the Windows users. Considering Microsoft's history with fines for not presenting people with a decent enough choice it seems they haven't learnt their lesson.
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It seems to me that Google, Facebook, and the like are quietly cooperating to do much more intrusive surveillance than Microsoft ever did (or are doing).
The trick here is: they cooperate. Whatever you do on eBay is reported back to Google, which then prompts stalking on Facebook later. (Not only by using cookies...)
So we are beyond being able to blame one particular corporation for the lamentable state of affairs - most of them are "in" on it now, and together they have enormous influence with government. The sense that Trump and Brexit voters often convey that they feel a lack of democratic influence from ordinary people is not completely unfounded...
SilverSolder:
--- Quote from: vk4ffab on July 12, 2020, 10:53:47 am ---
--- Quote from: NiHaoMike on July 04, 2020, 03:32:29 pm ---It doesn't have to affect the data analysis for it to work. Just making the searches uses their resources while using little on your end.
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In all seriousness, the only way to win, is to turn off your computer. Consume less online, gives them less data. I seriously only use about 20 websites. The big data harvesters are social media, facebook, tiktoc, instagram, twiter. The less we feed them the better.
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That is the reality, if you are bothered psychologically by being stalked. Many people aren't. They are the ones that would be eaten by the predators in ancient times! :D
NiHaoMike:
--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on July 12, 2020, 11:03:11 am ---Please don't start that "discussion" again. :palm:
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The sure way to end it is to prove (or disprove) that creating a lot of random searches "costs them less than it costs you". Given the computer science of generating pseudorandom numbers is far simpler than that of searching databases, it would be quite a feat even if they have a 10X advantage in lower energy cost. If it is the case, it would be interesting to know how they do it.
SilverSolder:
--- Quote from: NiHaoMike on July 12, 2020, 01:04:12 pm ---
--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on July 12, 2020, 11:03:11 am ---Please don't start that "discussion" again. :palm:
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The sure way to end it is to prove (or disprove) that creating a lot of random searches "costs them less than it costs you". Given the computer science of generating pseudorandom numbers is far simpler than that of searching databases, it would be quite a feat even if they have a 10X advantage in lower energy cost. If it is the case, it would be interesting to know how they do it.
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I think the noise idea could work - but only if enough of the "prey" were doing it that it amounted to a kind of denial-of-service attack on the "predators"! :D
Perhaps some kind of open source noise generating screen saver or other app that could devote a couple of percent of your CPU resources to generating noise. It would have to be very cleverly generated noise, and it would have to change and evolve to remain ahead of the "predators"... it would need to be designed to create plausible looking, but false patterns across millions of users...
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