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| Monkeh:
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on June 20, 2020, 06:59:04 pm --- --- Quote from: SiliconWizard on June 20, 2020, 05:20:51 pm --- [...] And then why a preinstalled, but non-essential app can't be uninstalled is fricking annoying. It may not be an MS issue per se (but as for MS, I still warn people about this app.) The fact it was drawing a lot of power with also abnormal data consumption, although I have no proof of what it does, doesn't look good. --- End quote --- I have noticed the same thing with Android - a whole class of applications that cannot be uninstalled? :wtf: Sadly, this seems to just be part of the "conspiracy" to force telemetry and tracking down everyone's throats - can you think of any other plausible reason? --- End quote --- Uh, yes, the system partition is quite intentionally read-only. |
| Mr. Scram:
--- Quote from: m98 on June 20, 2020, 12:02:16 pm ---Just like Google Chrome, Firefox, Opera, Safari... You can also disable most of the telemetry. I don't care what the browser does out-of-the-box. As long as I can configure it, it won't influence my choice. --- End quote --- I was talking about Chrome and Chrome based Edge. Firefox isn't nearly as bad. I don't think all of it is configurable either and many actually take steps to obfuscate their behaviour or circumvent your wishes. It very obvious many parties won't take no for an answer. |
| Mr. Scram:
--- Quote from: NiHaoMike on June 20, 2020, 12:52:08 pm ---There's one thing to do with such unwanted "telemetry": feed it fake data to show them how much you don't like it. And don't give it any real data so they would have nothing to gain. --- End quote --- Go ahead. Show us how you do it. |
| Mr. Scram:
--- Quote from: rdl on June 20, 2020, 03:01:02 pm ---All browsers and the companies behind them are not the same. Google is in a league of their own when it comes to telemetry and tracking user activities. Microsoft is doing the best they can to catch up. Avoid those two and the real problem becomes where you are connecting to, not what you use to connect with. --- End quote --- Even if you're able to keep full control of your own system, a lot of the world is now run on Azure, AWS or Google's platform. Many services, companies and governments use these so not shipping your data to them really is an uphill battle. |
| NiHaoMike:
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on June 20, 2020, 07:50:45 pm ---The ultimate solution is probably to disconnect any "serious" computer from the Internet, and have a separate machine just for browsing the Internet.... either that, or a separate firewall product that can completely block all communications with the surveillance capitalist mother ships. --- End quote --- Throwing in noise is one way to discourage such data collection in the first place, especially if it's hard to distinguish from real data. Another thing that helps a lot is using adblocking. In fact, many users don't like how targeted advertising seems to be "stalking" them and start using adblockers for that reason. (Although if you're using noise injection, checking ads is a good way to see how effective it is - if they're no longer relevant, it's probably working.) --- Quote from: Mr. Scram on June 20, 2020, 08:20:53 pm ---Go ahead. Show us how you do it. --- End quote --- It's just a matter of generating noise and presenting it to the telemetry. If you don't do anything that gives telemetry real data, then what it's collecting would be all fake. |
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