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The impudence of Microsoft has reached new (criminal?) heights
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NiHaoMike:

--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on June 21, 2020, 04:49:41 am ---Again, show us how you do it.

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Easy, no setup required way to protest Google:
http://makeinternetnoise.com/index.html

Customizable add ons that work great for a separate browser:
https://noiszy.com/
https://adnauseam.io/

All of these are open source so the community can improve it.

I no longer use Google for real searches (switched to DuckDuckGo), therefore all the searches they get from me are fake.

I have Noiszy and Adnauseam running together in a separate browser whose only purpose is to generate noise. On my "real" browser, I use uBlock Origin and Privacy Badger to minimize the amount of real data that trackers get.
Mr. Scram:

--- Quote from: NiHaoMike on June 21, 2020, 01:03:14 pm ---Easy, no setup required way to protest Google:
http://makeinternetnoise.com/index.html

Customizable add ons that work great for a separate browser:
https://noiszy.com/
https://adnauseam.io/

All of these are open source so the community can improve it.

I no longer use Google for real searches (switched to DuckDuckGo), therefore all the searches they get from me are fake.

I have Noiszy and Adnauseam running together in a separate browser whose only purpose is to generate noise. On my "real" browser, I use uBlock Origin and Privacy Badger to minimize the amount of real data that trackers get.

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Neither of those inject fake telemetry, they just create additional traffic. It would also be naive to think traffic of a rather different nature isn't easily distinguished. Anyone who makes that mistake is severely underestimating the sophistication of modern data harvesting. Other than the browser blatantly reporting the traffic comes from a plugin, that is.
NiHaoMike:

--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on June 21, 2020, 01:40:03 pm ---Neither of those inject fake telemetry, they just create additional traffic. It would also be naive to think traffic of a rather different nature isn't easily distinguished. Anyone who makes that mistake is severely underestimating the sophistication of modern data harvesting. Other than the browser blatantly reporting the traffic comes from a plugin, that is.

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What if the fake traffic outnumbers real traffic by a wide margin, say 100 to 1 or even more?
Siwastaja:

--- Quote from: NiHaoMike on June 21, 2020, 02:14:57 pm ---
--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on June 21, 2020, 01:40:03 pm ---Neither of those inject fake telemetry, they just create additional traffic. It would also be naive to think traffic of a rather different nature isn't easily distinguished. Anyone who makes that mistake is severely underestimating the sophistication of modern data harvesting. Other than the browser blatantly reporting the traffic comes from a plugin, that is.

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What if the fake traffic outnumbers real traffic by a wide margin, say 100 to 1 or even more?

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It won't - web browsing is slow enough as it is, both for communication bandwidth and browser CPU/memory resources, you don't afford generating realistic-looking fake internet use at 100x rate unless you have a 10GB/s fiber optic connection and a massively powerful 32-core machine with 64GB of RAM. Even then, I doubt realistic 100:1 would be possible.

If you only load lightweight pages, then it's different from "normal" usage patterns and is likely easy to filter. So the only way of generating realistic traffic incurs similar hardware requirements as the real traffic.

Note that normal internet usage is far from noise; it's a very specific "signal", depending on who's using it. And detecting a signal on top of noise is easy-peasy. The key would be not to generate truly random noise, but noise that seems similar to that signal.
dave j:

--- Quote from: VK3DRB on June 21, 2020, 03:48:17 am ---Ubuntu GUI looks and behaves a lot like Windows to the user. No innovation there. The MS Office alternatives look and behave very much like MS Office. Ho hum, nothing new under the sun  :=\.

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That's an eternal, unwinnable, problem for open source GUIs. Innovate and people complain it's too different to Windows. Make it work like Windows and people complain you just copy stuff.
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