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The impudence of Microsoft has reached new (criminal?) heights

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SilverSolder:

--- Quote from: nuclearcat on June 22, 2020, 04:30:29 pm ---
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  everybody remember how FTDI massively bricked tons of chip clones and the only one guilty and responsible (and most likely paying) will be EE who built product and missed problem with supply chain.
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Wonder how many decided to avoid using FTDI altogether as a result of this?  -  the company went from "Good reputation for solid product"  to "Typhoid Mary" in about a week...

james_s:

--- Quote from: SilverSolder on June 22, 2020, 05:28:26 pm ---Wonder how many decided to avoid using FTDI altogether as a result of this?  -  the company went from "Good reputation for solid product"  to "Typhoid Mary" in about a week...

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I've actively avoided using FTDI products since then and I was not even personally hit by the scheme. I'd rather just cut it off at the pass and never have to deal with such an issue, there are competing products with their own drivers that work just fine, no need to use fake FTDI clones.

Mr. Scram:

--- Quote from: NiHaoMike on June 21, 2020, 11:46:59 pm ---That's why I advocate for noise injection and efforts to the make the noise harder to distinguish from real data, because that has the potential to help those who don't know any better.

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It doesn't work that way. Look into how these things work or at least read by previous reply to you. Being naive about this doesn't get us anywhere and vague and overly broad handwavy "plans" won't either.

NiHaoMike:

--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on June 22, 2020, 09:50:42 pm ---It doesn't work that way. Look into how these things work or at least read by previous reply to you. Being naive about this doesn't get us anywhere and vague and overly broad handwavy "plans" won't either.

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So you give 100% noise (not necessarily all random) to an algorithm that (according to you) tries to pick out any pattern it can out of the noise. What happens if there isn't any real data to make any real patterns? Regardless of whether it locks onto a false pattern or gives up and concludes there's nothing of value, they just spent a lot of computing power to get nothing useful.

Bassman59:

--- Quote from: NiHaoMike on June 22, 2020, 11:07:30 pm ---
--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on June 22, 2020, 09:50:42 pm ---It doesn't work that way. Look into how these things work or at least read by previous reply to you. Being naive about this doesn't get us anywhere and vague and overly broad handwavy "plans" won't either.

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So you give 100% noise (not necessarily all random) to an algorithm that (according to you) tries to pick out any pattern it can out of the noise. What happens if there isn't any real data to make any real patterns? Regardless of whether it locks onto a false pattern or gives up and concludes there's nothing of value, they just spent a lot of computing power to get nothing useful.

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For starters, you haven't shown us any examples of how one would generate this noise.

If there is no real data, then, sure, the monitor "spent a lot of computing power ..." but then again, so did you. The difference is that they have power to spare and you don't.

I should also point out that your internet connection is metered. Look at your bill. You do have a data-transfer cap, even if it's high (like mine, which is a terabyte per month). Do you really want to eat up your data allotment sending noise?

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