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The impudence of Microsoft has reached new (criminal?) heights

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nuclearcat:

--- Quote from: james_s on June 22, 2020, 06:28:40 pm ---I've actively avoided using FTDI products since then and I was not even personally hit by the scheme. I'd rather just cut it off at the pass and never have to deal with such an issue, there are competing products with their own drivers that work just fine, no need to use fake FTDI clones.

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Sometimes there is a reasons to keep using FTDI, for example reusing existing opensource software or libraries, to not reinvent the wheel.
And now i am ok to use clones, after such harmful "stunt" done by company and wont feel any guilt about that, as long as they are suitable for project and there is no way FTDI can do such sabotage in specific product again.
And whole topic is more about that Microsoft might deliver another bricker code for your devices, different vendor, if they wish to do so, and you can do nothing about it. All this attempts to cut updates by ips and dns names are funny as well, as you can't know, because you cant know how much stuff hidden in their code, and how they can keep data channels over "steganographed means" on.

Regarding opposing Microsoft and Google. Guys, did you forgot Mozilla aint saint too? Their stunt with DNS over HTTPS routed by default to cloudflare, and as i heard enabled by default for US customers - doesnt smell good at all. One thing is good - if browser if opensource, you can always build your own fork of Firefox or Chromium. "Edge" is not even near to that.

NiHaoMike:

--- Quote from: Bassman59 on June 22, 2020, 11:54:54 pm ---For starters, you haven't shown us any examples of how one would generate this noise.

If there is no real data, then, sure, the monitor "spent a lot of computing power ..." but then again, so did you. The difference is that they have power to spare and you don't.

I should also point out that your internet connection is metered. Look at your bill. You do have a data-transfer cap, even if it's high (like mine, which is a terabyte per month). Do you really want to eat up your data allotment sending noise?

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Believe it or not, uncapped connections (at least for fixed connections) are the norm in some areas. (If you *do* have a cap, ad blocking is a must!)

Here's one example of a noise generator:
http://makeinternetnoise.com/index.html
It's just a script that periodically submits a random string as a search query. Doesn't use much bandwidth or compute power on the client side. I'm sure that if you reimplemented it as native code (or even an interpreted language that's more efficient than Javascript), it would be even more efficient and allow many more parallel instances to run on even a Raspberry Pi.

I am aware that bandwidth is (relatively) cheap for them, hence wasting that is not the most effective way of protest. But do they really have as much to spare as you think? Some video hosts are lowering the default resolution to reduce bandwidth usage thanks to COVID-19 dramatically increasing demand.

They don't get compute power, memory, or storage space very much cheaper than we do (in fact, enterprise hardware tends to be more expensive per metric than consumer hardware), plus the good protests are very asymmetrical in that the resource use on the client side is much lower than on the server side.

SilverSolder:

--- Quote from: NiHaoMike on June 23, 2020, 12:57:08 am ---
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Here's one example of a noise generator:
http://makeinternetnoise.com/index.html

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Love it!   Have it running in a virtual machine now... 

james_s:

--- Quote from: NiHaoMike on June 23, 2020, 12:57:08 am ---
--- Quote from: Bassman59 on June 22, 2020, 11:54:54 pm ---For starters, you haven't shown us any examples of how one would generate this noise.

If there is no real data, then, sure, the monitor "spent a lot of computing power ..." but then again, so did you. The difference is that they have power to spare and you don't.

I should also point out that your internet connection is metered. Look at your bill. You do have a data-transfer cap, even if it's high (like mine, which is a terabyte per month). Do you really want to eat up your data allotment sending noise?

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Believe it or not, uncapped connections (at least for fixed connections) are the norm in some areas. (If you *do* have a cap, ad blocking is a must!)

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I've never had a cap on my internet connection. Until recently I had a 30/30Mb connection and at one point I had the downstream almost completely saturated for several weeks and was not billed anything extra or throttled. Now I have a gigabit connection and have not come close to saturating it for any length of time and again I cannot find any mention of any sort of cap.

themadhippy:

--- Quote ---I've never had a cap on my internet connection.
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last one i had was about 18 years ago

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