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The impudence of Microsoft has reached new (criminal?) heights

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SilverSolder:

A Win7 machine here received Edge as an update a couple of days ago, as well.

Not bad for an unsupported OS that's not supposed to get any updates...

SiliconWizard:

--- Quote from: SilverSolder on July 03, 2020, 09:59:52 pm ---
A Win7 machine here received Edge as an update a couple of days ago, as well.

Not bad for an unsupported OS that's not supposed to get any updates...

--- End quote ---

Indeed, it appeared as an update.
Note that 7 also gets Windows Defender updates on a (very) regular basis, but apparently it's just "signatures" and not the core software itself.

I guess they consider both as not directly part of the OS, but as additional MS apps, that you still get updates for. Edge is a weird case though - what app is it supposed to update? Internet Explorer? Which would be contradictory though, as MS explicited stated that IE support on 7 would end on the same date that the OS support itself would.

Also note that 7 is NOT exactly unsupported. Support is just no longer free. https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/help/4527878/faq-about-extended-security-updates-for-windows-7
At the moment, ESU has a planned update cycle up to Jan. 2023.

rdl:
Last week Defender claimed it needed an definitions update. It downloaded it but couldn't install it. Googling the error did not really help. I didn't really look into it any farther. Maybe definitions are no longer compatible with the Windows 7 Defender?

Mr. Scram:

--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on July 03, 2020, 10:30:00 pm ---Indeed, it appeared as an update.
Note that 7 also gets Windows Defender updates on a (very) regular basis, but apparently it's just "signatures" and not the core software itself.

I guess they consider both as not directly part of the OS, but as additional MS apps, that you still get updates for. Edge is a weird case though - what app is it supposed to update? Internet Explorer? Which would be contradictory though, as MS explicited stated that IE support on 7 would end on the same date that the OS support itself would.

Also note that 7 is NOT exactly unsupported. Support is just no longer free. https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/help/4527878/faq-about-extended-security-updates-for-windows-7
At the moment, ESU has a planned update cycle up to Jan. 2023.

--- End quote ---
Windows 7 is essentially unsupported as regular Joes won't get any further updates. Extended support isn't for regular end users.

Mr. Scram:

--- Quote from: Bassman59 on June 22, 2020, 11:54:54 pm ---For starters, you haven't shown us any examples of how one would generate this noise.

If there is no real data, then, sure, the monitor "spent a lot of computing power ..." but then again, so did you. The difference is that they have power to spare and you don't.

I should also point out that your internet connection is metered. Look at your bill. You do have a data-transfer cap, even if it's high (like mine, which is a terabyte per month). Do you really want to eat up your data allotment sending noise?

--- End quote ---
Being ridiculously naive about how these things work isn't going to help anyone. Generating noise successfully depends both on overwhelming the other party and creating relevant and appropriate "adversarial" noise. Neither are realistically going to happen. These are incredibly well funded parties literally making their money by distilling vast amounts of highly noisy data into something usable profitable. Some idealistic handwavy plans aren't going to impress anyone.

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