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The impudence of Microsoft has reached new (criminal?) heights
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AlexJackson:
And here I am slowly migrating my main programs, and work environment to Debian Mate to leave the Microsoft Ecosystem. (Plasma looks nice and polished so I'm struggling a bit though). I'm still on Windows 7 Pro with updates disabled so luckily I avoided the recommended 'security' updates (*cough* "Edge" *cough*). The only thing holding me to Windows is gaming. Debian Mate "Live USB" w/ persistence is more than adequate for my daily needs such as browsing, programming, and relaxing.

Windows 7, Palemoon browser (portable version, noscript, ublock) along with a pihole with aggressive filters and a firewall with aggressive settings and lots of garbage in my hosts file. It stops a lot of garbage but it also breaks a lot of sites.

In one particular circle of users I'm around, Windows 10 was a huuuuuuuge unmitigated disaster with people running machines 24x7 who operate local weather stations. The incessant rebooting, system wide configuration changes, and a host of issues made Win10 useless for that environment. Its gotten better though. Luckily on my WX server still runs 7 and I haven't had any issues with it. :)

I miss Windows 2000 Pro. An operating system to get work done with no social media installed.
NiHaoMike:

--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on July 03, 2020, 11:45:43 pm ---Being ridiculously naive about how these things work isn't going to help anyone. Generating noise successfully depends both on overwhelming the other party and creating relevant and appropriate "adversarial" noise. Neither are realistically going to happen. These are incredibly well funded parties literally making their money by distilling vast amounts of highly noisy data into something usable profitable. Some idealistic handwavy plans aren't going to impress anyone.

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Then what about just cost them computing resources with automated protest? Count how many times you actually use the search along with how much (little) bandwidth it uses and it will turn out doing 100x as many searches per day as a normal user does is not hard at all. And it takes far less computing power to generate random data (especially if defeating tracking is not the goal) than it does to actually do the search.
Mr. Scram:

--- Quote from: NiHaoMike on July 04, 2020, 01:51:24 pm ---Then what about just cost them computing resources with automated protest? Count how many times you actually use the search along with how much (little) bandwidth it uses and it will turn out doing 100x as many searches per day as a normal user does is not hard at all. And it takes far less computing power to generate random data (especially if defeating tracking is not the goal) than it does to actually do the search.

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Incorrect. You're still working under the naive assumption you can essentially DDOS these groups with blunt noise, which is problematic for several reasons. We can go back and forth endlessly but it's no use without at least some understanding of what you're up against.
NiHaoMike:

--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on July 04, 2020, 02:35:25 pm ---Incorrect. You're still working under the naive assumption you can essentially DDOS these groups with blunt noise, which is problematic for several reasons. We can go back and forth endlessly but it's no use without at least some understanding of what you're up against.

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Not a complete DDoS attack, just increasing their costs so the data collection ends up less profitable. Even ignoring the tracking side of things, they end up using resources to return a bunch of results that ultimately just get discarded. Don't forget that it takes resources to look at the search terms and decide what to actually use for analysis.
Mr. Scram:

--- Quote from: NiHaoMike on July 04, 2020, 02:42:54 pm ---Not a complete DDoS attack, just increasing their costs so the data collection ends up less profitable. Even ignoring the tracking side of things, they end up using resources to return a bunch of results that ultimately just get discarded. Don't forget that it takes resources to look at the search terms and decide what to actually use for analysis.

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You keep making the same handwavy arguments. Stop talking and start informing yourself a bit.
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