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Offline MephitusTopic starter

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The littlest toroid that could
« on: July 16, 2015, 06:05:43 pm »
I was in the process of repairing a bluetooth headset and found this cute little guy in with the negative line of the speaker. I have been reading way too many childrens books to my son, as the first thing I that came to mind was some kind of childrens EE book about the little toroid saving the day.
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Re: The littlest toroid that could
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2015, 06:14:03 pm »
Nice picture.

Here's some hardcore winding action:

 

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Re: The littlest toroid that could
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2015, 06:42:28 pm »
Thats a pretty hard core little winding.  :-+ Tiny little brushed motor? Would be cool to see in action.
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Re: The littlest toroid that could
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2015, 06:54:36 pm »
Nice picture.

Here's some hardcore winding action:


What's hardcore? Quiet easy to wind actually (most of the motors are much more complicated to wind). Looks like the motor from the VCR head.
Thats a pretty hard core little winding.  :-+ Tiny little brushed motor? Would be cool to see in action.
There are no brushes, just coils switched. Rotor is on the outside.
 

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Re: The littlest toroid that could
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2015, 06:57:29 pm »
That came from a CDROM, the metal looks sheared as if I snapped it off, but I can't remember, I found it in a drawer where it must have been for years before I thought to photo it.
 

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Re: The littlest toroid that could
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2015, 07:09:47 pm »
Here's some hardcore winding action:

Placing a ruler in the photograph next to the object is always valuable to understand the scale. Without a scale there is no way to tell how small (or large) an object actually is.
 

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Re: The littlest toroid that could
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2015, 07:44:10 pm »
While attempting to find just how small people have made electric motors, I found this thread on another forum with a guy making 2.5MM (and smaller) electric motors. And a tiny 8mwh lipo battery.
http://www.westknoxrc.com/index.php?topic=625.0
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Re: The littlest toroid that could
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2015, 08:12:00 pm »
^ That is very cool, thanks for sharing.

For those pondering the click, lots of videos to go with his tiny motor projects.

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Re: The littlest toroid that could
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2015, 08:15:35 pm »
While attempting to find just how small people have made electric motors, I found this thread on another forum with a guy making 2.5MM (and smaller) electric motors. And a tiny 8mwh lipo battery.
http://www.westknoxrc.com/index.php?topic=625.0

 While not a commercial product, I recall reading (and seeing a picture) of a magnet motor built in research lab that could only be seen with help of a microscope, and this was in the 50s sometime.

 

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Re: The littlest toroid that could
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2015, 09:40:31 pm »
I found this thread on another forum with a guy making 2.5MM (and smaller) electric motors.
For the sake of the international folks, that's a one US cent "penny" coin and it's 19mm in diameter.
 

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Re: The littlest toroid that could
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2015, 01:51:11 am »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There%27s_Plenty_of_Room_at_the_Bottom



I don't know what the smallest magnetic machine is today, but MEMS uses quite a lot of electric motors.  Accelerometers oscillate and measure springboards with electric fields; DLP use movable mirrors; etc.

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Re: The littlest toroid that could
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2015, 05:27:30 am »
Speaking of cool windings... Here's a Maxon motor with an ironless rotor. I got it broken so I took it apart to see how it was built.

The rotor is self supporting and the magnet (silver cylindrical object at the background) is alnico and sits inside the rotor.
 

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Re: The littlest toroid that could
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2015, 06:52:59 am »
Yes, you beat me to posting a Maxon rotor. A thing of beauty....
 

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Re: The littlest toroid that could
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2015, 07:59:36 am »
Greek letter 'Psi' (not Pounds per Square Inch)
 

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Re: The littlest toroid that could
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2015, 08:14:51 am »
Pager motors! I have some of those but none are broken so I did not have one to take apart :)
 

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Re: The littlest toroid that could
« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2015, 11:04:54 am »
Back to the topc title, what about magnetc memory cores? see: http://ed-thelen.org/comp-hist/navy-core-memory-desc.html and yes that's right, they did actually use thousands of 1.27mm dia ferrite toroids.
 


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