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General => General Technical Chat => Topic started by: kashinath on January 04, 2025, 09:57:11 am
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This was an electronics related youtube channel (https://youtube.com/c/TheOffsetVolt/videos ) It's gone. It had a series of videos on Elenco radio kit. Please help me find these videos. Is there any way to watch deleted YouTube videos. Another YouTube channel devtty0 (https://youtube.com/c/Analogzoo/videos) is gone. I don't know it is YouTube or the creaters who deleted their channel.
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I remember a few interesting videos from devtty0, strange that is gone. Googled it and found some random link to the blog, and that one is gone, too, sais the domain registration has expired.
https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/321031/crystal-oscillator-design-and-crystal-drive-level (https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/321031/crystal-oscillator-design-and-crystal-drive-level)
http://www.analogzoo.com/2015/07/ (http://www.analogzoo.com/2015/07/)
http://www.analogzoo.com/lab/pierce_bjt.html (http://www.analogzoo.com/lab/pierce_bjt.html)
However, I've clicked out of curiosity the "please contact your registrar" (I'm not devtty0, I've clicked there in the hope to find out when the analogzoo domain has expired), and got an error page saying
Unable to connect
LibreWolf can’t establish a connection to the server at expired.topdns.com.
The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few moments.
If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer’s network connection.
If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure that LibreWolf is permitted to access the web.
:-//
Do you happen to know what was the nationality of the owners for the now missing YouTube channels?
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i like the offset videos :(
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If you can find an old link (maybe in your browser history) to the exact youtube URL of the video, you could try that in web.archive.org - they do have some Youtube videos archived.
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Do you happen to know what was the nationality of the owners for the now missing YouTube channels?
Analogzoo was in the US. He had my MHS5200A (more like it went to him first) and made videos about it and then sent it to my address:
https://web.archive.org/web/20190328124226/http://www.analogzoo.com/2016/08/revisiting-the-mhs5200a/ (https://web.archive.org/web/20190328124226/http://www.analogzoo.com/2016/08/revisiting-the-mhs5200a/)
The archive also has his channel:
https://web.archive.org/web/20230923120524/https://www.youtube.com/@Analogzoo/videos (https://web.archive.org/web/20230923120524/https://www.youtube.com/@Analogzoo/videos)
I tried playing his latest video as a test (the one about "negative resistance") and it worked OK.
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Here's the link to The Offset Volt (https://web.archive.org/web/20230623035516/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr5GSao6hWBvsVLGWha1hCw/videos) on web.archive.org.
It doesn't list videos prior to 82 for me.
82 can't be found when played but 86 does.
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I was mistaken when I posted the following. See later post clarifying this.
Youtube had announced a policy last year that if someone has not accessed their channel in a number of years (2 or 3 years), they will declare the channel as orphaned and delete it. I believe it went into effect January 1, 2025.
How old were the videos? Is the channel owner still alive?
While I can see Youtube's point of cleaning up clutter by deleting old and irrelevant videos, that policy also catches some rather unique and niche content that is not available elsewhere and that is important to a segment of people, maybe to the society at large.
This is especially true for some older technologies where the practitioners who really knew the stuff are getting old and passing on and the knowledge is dying with them. It is sad that the critical information that some of them archived in their videos is also going to be lost.
Youtube has to decide if they are a folivorous site for people to post meaningless content, or if they are a reference source and a site of record. It seems they have chosen to be the former. Sad. Very sad indeed.
There will never be another Jim Williams or a Bob Pease. They shared their knowledge freely and the books, articles, white papers and app notes they wrote will live on in paper and electronic document form. What if they had done all their work on Youtube? It would be an immense loss to society if all their content disappeared 3 years after their death.
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There will never be another Jim Williams or a Bob Pease. They shared their knowledge freely and the books, articles, white papers and app notes they wrote will live on in paper and electronic document form. What if they had done all their work on Youtube? It would be an immense loss to society if all their content disappeared 3 years after their death.
Their fame would've been sufficient for others to save their work even while they're alive.
What's more worrying is the content of the highly obscure and detailed creators.
Storage is very cheap these days, so whenever I see something that I like and its future existence is in question, it gets saved.
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I used to watch a bunch of The Offset Volt video's, he made good video's and gave good explanations without getting to deep into the math.
Was he getting too old and gave up making them? It's a shame if they aren't still on youtube then.
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Youtube had announced a policy last year that if someone has not accessed their channel in a number of years (2 or 3 years), they will declare the channel as orphaned and delete it. I believe it went into effect January 1, 2025.
Do you have any link about that announcement, please?
Asking because I've just searched a moment ago for https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=youtube+deleting+old+accounts+2025&ia=web and all I can find are news/articles/blogs from 2023, where they say YT will NOT delete the content of inactive accounts. :-//
https://cordcuttersnews.com/youtube-announces-it-wont-remove-old-videos-if-their-inactive-google-account-is-deleted/
https://gizmodo.com/google-will-not-delete-old-youtube-accounts-with-videos-1850454500
https://arstechnica.com/google/2023/05/googles-new-inactive-account-policy-wont-delete-years-of-youtube-videos/
Those are random search results and they all seem to be from 2023, did YouTube changed their mind later?
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Good catch RoGeorge. You are absolutely right.
There was a recent video by Fran of FranLab where she was talking about this and lamenting the future of her 1000+ videos after she is gone. I think this was in the last 3 months, maybe even last month, but I could be wrong there. I took her for her word and did not do any more research. My bad.
Researching it right now, it appears that Google will delete inactive accounts after 2 years, but will not delete YouTube videos associated with those accounts. But a few places suggested that the URL for the video will change due to the account disappearing. If the account is no longer there, how are the video organized? Can you even find all videos from a defunct creator or will they pop up if you use search terms related to each video?
This leads to the question about the falling tree in the forest: If no one can find it online, does it really exist online?
Here's one article that says that the original announcement from Google in 2023 explicitly stated that they will delete YouTube content. After public uproar, they updated the blog and removed "YouTube" from the list. After that they pretended that they had never intended to delete YouTube content and acted aggrieved that someone would think that they would do such a thing. Here's that link: https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/technology-verify/google-not-deleting-inactive-youtube-video-accounts/536-96d2f709-c5eb-47a3-8fc8-a92e6778c615 (https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/technology-verify/google-not-deleting-inactive-youtube-video-accounts/536-96d2f709-c5eb-47a3-8fc8-a92e6778c615)
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...even while they're alive.
You do know that both of them died in June 2011?
Jim had a stroke at work and died after a couple of days in a coma.
Bob died a week later in a car accident while returning from a memorial event for Jim.
Both were quite young: 63 and 70 respectively. 60's and 70's used to be old. But now that I am knocking on the doorsteps of my 60's, 63 feels positively youthful!
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Youtube had announced a policy last year that if someone has not accessed their channel in a number of years (2 or 3 years), they will declare the channel as orphaned and delete it. I believe it went into effect January 1, 2025.
Do you have any link about that announcement, please?
Asking because I've just searched a moment ago for https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=youtube+deleting+old+accounts+2025&ia=web and all I can find are news/articles/blogs from 2023, where they say YT will NOT delete the content of inactive accounts. :-//
https://cordcuttersnews.com/youtube-announces-it-wont-remove-old-videos-if-their-inactive-google-account-is-deleted/
https://gizmodo.com/google-will-not-delete-old-youtube-accounts-with-videos-1850454500
https://arstechnica.com/google/2023/05/googles-new-inactive-account-policy-wont-delete-years-of-youtube-videos/
Those are random search results and they all seem to be from 2023, did YouTube changed their mind later?
I guess not deleting inactive channels could at some point become a problem for google. Lets say laws change or YT come up with some new way of using videos, so they need to update the agreement for posting videos, if there is no one to accept the new agreement what else can they do?
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...even while they're alive.
You do know that both of them died in June 2011?
Jim had a stroke at work and died after a couple of days in a coma.
Bob died a week later in a car accident while returning from a memorial event for Jim.
Both were quite young: 63 and 70 respectively. 60's and 70's used to be old. But now that I am knocking on the doorsteps of my 60's, 63 feels positively youthful!
Yes, I know they aren't alive anymore; but their fame was enough to make others preserve and spread their work even while they were.
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https://www.youtube.com/@andyaronsonnsc/videos (https://www.youtube.com/@andyaronsonnsc/videos)
this 1 is still working