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| wilfred:
--- Quote from: l0rd_hex on December 10, 2020, 05:13:35 pm ---Howdy all! I need some help... I've been updating Meredith's Wikipedia page to include some mention of the failure of Ubeam and how she's been compared to Elizabeth Holmes (by her own, one time PR person). I've included sources for my claims and I believe they're fair an accurate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meredith_Perry Unfortunately, someone keeps removing the content as "hate speech and fraudulent claims" and "hateful misinformation", check out the page's history for context. Can I ask anyone who is interested to take a few minutes and update her page with some of the facts uncovered in this thread and the "Lies, Damn Lies, and Startup PR" blog (sorry I forgot the gents name)? Keep in mind that what you add should be well sourced and fairly written. It really bugs me that her or someone close to her is removing the stuff from her page that shows she's not exactly a super-genius... it makes me think others will be taken by her if they don't see the whole truth on her Wiki page. Thanks! --- End quote --- Well your footer here on the EEVBlog says "I haven't paid taxes in six years, and I'm not getting busted by a damn sandwich." - Benjamin Franklin Did Benjamin Franklin really say that? Give me a source to confirm it isn't a figment of your imagination and I'll cut you some slack that you're not just another Wikipedia vandal. Asking others on the internet to also make changes to support your views is not a good look for someone who wants to make credible claims to be making a better informed world. At the moment I have no idea you are not someone with an axe to grind. |
| coppercone2:
its probably hired PR could even be elizebeth holmes people that don't want the name mentioned, the trial is ongoing. |
| Nominal Animal:
Wikipedia user David Eppstein (claiming to be a computer science professor at UC Irvine) has now locked the Meredith Perry article to the "non-hateful" version. Idiot. --- Quote from: wilfred on December 17, 2020, 12:54:21 am --- --- Quote from: l0rd_hex on December 10, 2020, 05:13:35 pm ---I need some help... I've been updating Meredith's Wikipedia page to include some mention of the failure of Ubeam and how she's been compared to Elizabeth Holmes (by her own, one time PR person). I've included sources for my claims and I believe they're fair an accurate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meredith_Perry --- End quote --- At the moment I have no idea you are not someone with an axe to grind. --- End quote --- Oh, you are one of those people who believe "hate facts" should be suppressed, are you? That because someone is portrayed as being for the benefit of humanity, their utter fraudulence should not be discussed and should definitely not be publicly described? Go to hell. Facts are facts, and no matter what l0rd_hex's personal opinion, his edits were backed by references to external sources per Wikipedia rules. Now those are suppressed from that Wikipedia page, exactly because of people like you. I hope you have the capability and sense to feel ashamed of yourself and your opinions. And if you are or know David Eppstein, tell him he is an asshat for locking that page to the arse-licking version, too. |
| wilfred:
--- Quote from: Nominal Animal on December 17, 2020, 05:25:38 am --- Oh, you are one of those people who believe "hate facts" should be suppressed, are you? That because someone is portrayed as being for the benefit of humanity, their utter fraudulence should not be discussed and should definitely not be publicly described? Go to hell. Facts are facts, and no matter what l0rd_hex's personal opinion, his edits were backed by references to external sources per Wikipedia rules. Now those are suppressed from that Wikipedia page, exactly because of people like you. I hope you have the capability and sense to feel ashamed of yourself and your opinions. And if you are or know David Eppstein, tell him he is an asshat for locking that page to the arse-licking version, too. --- End quote --- No. I'm one of those people who want to be able to verify things. People could easily claim the US election was fraudulent based on a single persons opinions. You need to be able to check claims to ensure you're properly informed. I think Wikipedia articles should have stronger references than just a single persons blogpost or tweets. There are too many easily suggestible people in the world to allow Wikipedia to be derailed with weak attribution. It is also my opinion that you weaken your argument with ad hominem attacks. And it is weak enough regardless. Why don't you go and refresh your awareness of rule number 2. https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/forum-rules-please-read/ |
| Nominal Animal:
Most of the crappy things in this world are not because of evil masterminds, but because of those who enable exploiters and liars, and out of politeness avoid pointing them out. I will call out anyone I catch in a lie, who exploits others for their own gain, who refuses to acknowledge an error, and anyone who lets things slide because they feel better when nasty things are out of mind, out of sight. I have seen the damage that does, and I refuse to let it slide. People like Meredith Perry are the ones who manage to divert resources in their millions to obviously inane projects like the uBeam, or solar roads. They are exploiters, who not only divert resources from better uses, but also reduces the general opinion of science and engineering. Because of Meredith Perry and her ilk, everyone who actually creates new projects and viable products, have to fight harder. In Finland, this kind of lackadaisical attitude towards results has lead to only approximately one large IT project in three to actually complete. It has become acceptable for almost two thirds of publicly funded projects to fail without producing any results, without repercussions to their leaders and purchasers, exactly because people do not want to be confrontational, and think that by being "reasonable", they are behaving in a more moral manner. What they are actually doing, is leaving enough room for these exploiters and fakers to live large. I hate that. I will call out anyone that directly or indirectly, even unknowingly, supports that. I will explain exactly why and how, and I will use offensive language. You demanded "better sources" for Meredith Perry's wikipedia article. Fact is, she has already shown she is a fraudster, and your attitude leaves other people, especially politicians and investors, to be defrauded and exploited by her. That is why I use such harsh language with those I perceive as being enablers of exploiters: it is one of the rare things I absolutely hate. I do not do it lightly. If this gets me banned, so be it: I value truth and responsibility way more than I value anyones emotions. If emotions get elevated above truth, I'll walk out myself. |
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