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p.larner:
apparrently RBMK as in soviet reactor stands for Really Badly Made Kettle.
jmelson:

--- Quote from: p.larner on March 22, 2024, 01:15:40 am ---apparrently RBMK as in soviet reactor stands for Really Badly Made Kettle.

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Well, no it doesn't, but that is a pretty GOOD metaphor for the foregone catastrophe that the RBMK1000 really is.  It is only a miracle that one didn't blow up  sooner!
Jon
coppercone2:
the europeans do have a obsession with high power kettles. tea needs to be made on the tap basically. we can live with 1kw in usa

. Making tea in europe in 50k years is going to look like the end of wrath of khan.
tooki:

--- Quote from: coppercone2 on March 22, 2024, 06:45:10 pm ---the europeans do have a obsession with high power kettles. tea needs to be made on the tap basically. we can live with 1kw in usa

. Making tea in europe in 50k years is going to look like the end of wrath of khan.

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No, they don’t have any such obsession, and this being a technical forum, you should know better than to repeat such drivel.

Europeans use >2kW kettles because that’s what they sell at the store when they go to buy one.
Americans suffice themselves with ~1.5kW kettles because that’s what they sell at the store when they go to buy one.

The only people who put any thought into this whatsoever are a small percentage of the many Europeans who go to USA and happen to notice a difference, and of those, an even smaller percentage make a fuss to compensate for their personal anatomical deficiencies. Nobody else gives a damn.
EPAIII:
If this switched from nuclear reactors to electric tea kettles for the household and the difference in power levels, then it seems simple. With 115V and a 15A circuit, which is the most common circuit in US homes, you get a maximum of 1725W or 1.725KW.

On the other hand, if you have 230V with 10A circuits, then the max power you can get is 2300W or 2.3KW. I have not visited Europe and could be wrong, but it is my impression that 230V, 10A circuits are fairly common there.

In both cases the tea kettle designers go for less than the max and you are left with 1.5KW and 2.0KW respectively. Frankly, I have a couple of electric coffee brewing devices and at least one that I use for iced tea and none of them even comes close to that power level. It just takes a bit longer to brew with them: the water gets just as hot.

About time for a cup of coffee now.

This weakness of using 115V, 15A circuits is why I installed 115V, 20A circuits when I wired my garage/shop. They are perfectly legal here, you just must use a larger gauge of wire and sockets rated for 20A instead of those for just 15A. Of course the electrical contractors prefer using cheaper wire and outlets and that explains the predominance of the 15A circuits here and probably of 10A circuits in Europe.

I have yet to run out of power in any corner of my shop, even when I connect multiple devices to one circuit. And for the heavier tools and shop AC I have 230V, 20A circuits.
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