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SiliconWizard:

--- Quote from: Monkeh on April 11, 2022, 02:50:18 am ---
--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on April 11, 2022, 01:49:04 am ---Hopefully you're right, but that's interesting, as that would mean they would be liable in case of any power loss due to the grid, which does happen occasionally. Are they? Or are they not in this case, just because they can prove it's for instance due to an external factor that's beyond their control? And is it always the case?
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I think the difference between a fault or error and an intentional act is pretty clear.

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If things were that clear and simple, I would probably have not written the above.
Sure if there's an "external factor" as I mentioned, such as some accident, natural catastrophe, etc, no problem.

But have you heard about load shedding, which is being routinely done during peaks of consumption? It absolutely *is* intentional. The fact it's for the "greater good" of the network doesn't change that. Otherwise, shutting down installations individually (when energy companies are already allowed to do it for groups of installations) is merely a tiny step away. All they need is to prove that taking individual measures is for the greater good of the whole grid.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-06/what-is-load-shedding-and-how-does-it-work/11650096

MrMobodies:

--- Quote ---This new smart socket tells you if it's using more renewable energy. It can also save you money by spotting energy that's being wasted.
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Every time I see and hear that word my annoyance levels go up.

I am seeing that word used more and more... smart this smart that  :bullshit:

Anyway two lights isn't going to tell me much about this energy.
It could mean anything without seeing the details.

Sounds to me like a guilt trip they might be pulling on those who buy it and get taken in.

I have a "Current cost meter" with serial port and cables I got second hand many years.

That tells me a figure of what is high and low and I can set the pence per kwh unit if I wanted to and not by some stupid lights that tells me b*gger all like what was on those crap shop brought alien faced battery chargers that I use to see selling 20 years ago.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Current-Cost-ENVI-CC128-Electricity-monitor-White/dp/B002FVJA5I

Don't see the word "SMART" in this listing.

Monkeh:

--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on April 11, 2022, 05:59:44 pm ---
--- Quote from: Monkeh on April 11, 2022, 02:50:18 am ---
--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on April 11, 2022, 01:49:04 am ---Hopefully you're right, but that's interesting, as that would mean they would be liable in case of any power loss due to the grid, which does happen occasionally. Are they? Or are they not in this case, just because they can prove it's for instance due to an external factor that's beyond their control? And is it always the case?
--- End quote ---

I think the difference between a fault or error and an intentional act is pretty clear.

--- End quote ---

If things were that clear and simple, I would probably have not written the above.
Sure if there's an "external factor" as I mentioned, such as some accident, natural catastrophe, etc, no problem.

But have you heard about load shedding, which is being routinely done during peaks of consumption? It absolutely *is* intentional. The fact it's for the "greater good" of the network doesn't change that. Otherwise, shutting down installations individually (when energy companies are already allowed to do it for groups of installations) is merely a tiny step away. All they need is to prove that taking individual measures is for the greater good of the whole grid.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-06/what-is-load-shedding-and-how-does-it-work/11650096

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Again, we don't do that. We have a functional grid.

Ground_Loop:
I'm curious how much energy is being used to maintain that control center.  Looks like just another intrusive solution looking for a problem.

MK14:

--- Quote from: Ground_Loop on April 11, 2022, 09:23:29 pm ---I'm curious how much energy is being used to maintain that control center.  Looks like just another intrusive solution looking for a problem.

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Probably not much more, than they are managing to save.
Although stated in jest, I quietly suspect it may indeed be the reality. At their offices/premises, how much does all the lighting, PCs, Servers, Electronics, Air-conditioning, Heating, etc use, compared to the (presumably) modest/slight savings in electricity per socket ?

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