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| To those who think they "Made It" in Engeneering: What was your path? |
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| rstofer:
The money making is in the stock market - especially in 401(k) accounts. Even the Biden presidency has been returning pretty high percentages. Not as high as under Trump (up 40+% and 10,000 points during his presidency) but not bad at all. Make sure you contribute the maximum allowed and hope your employer matches a significant percentage. |
| sandalcandal:
Time for some quick fact checking. --- Quote from: rstofer on June 24, 2021, 11:03:18 pm --- --- Quote from: TimNJ on June 24, 2021, 04:13:10 pm --- You can live very comfortably with salaries >$100K/year, but I think even gray beard EE's are probably not (on average) making too much more than $120-130K/year, and lots of young and middle-age engineers working for $60-90K/year. --- End quote --- You can't live comfortably in Silicon Valley on that kind of salary. Maybe a couple of such incomes could get by... https://sf.curbed.com/2018/3/2/17073100/silicon-valley-house-home-sunnyvale-record-price-crisis You can go to bls.gov and check median incomes by occupation and location. Growth is not favorable for EEs, CS types make more money and the field is growing faster by a LOT. The problem I have with bls.gov is that they seem to comingle electrical engineering (power and such) with electronics engineering. --- End quote --- Well they sort out electronics engineers if you look closer. https://www.bls.gov/ooh/architecture-and-engineering/electrical-and-electronics-engineers.htm#tab-5 Bay area wages also tend to be much higher than the national average in correlation with the higher cost of living in the area. A quick search reveals plenty of jobs postings with >$150k advertised compensation. Made an account and went through the user tracking crud and got statics on "Electronics Engineer", Bachelors, 10yrs experience, SF, from https://www.payscale.com/ (full report attached) Also for Sydney Edit: I have a friend with much less than 10 yrs experience earning more than the A$111k 90% in this statistic, I also have many friends earning less. Edit2: Even a lot of my friends got around A$80k and some even higher at their first positions right after graduating though they were all pretty component "high achievers" with decent work experience before graduating. |
| DEV001:
I just watched a brilliant interview with Jim Keller. The interview was focused naturally around his CPU designing skills and some architecture questions but he talks about a lot of interesting topics from books he reads to how he got to where he is now. If you don't want to watch the video, the text version is on their site. https://www.anandtech.com/show/16762/an-anandtech-interview-with-jim-keller-laziest-person-at-tesla The video has bookmarks if you expand the summary below the video. |
| TimNJ:
--- Quote from: rstofer on June 24, 2021, 11:03:18 pm --- --- Quote from: TimNJ on June 24, 2021, 04:13:10 pm --- You can live very comfortably with salaries >$100K/year, but I think even gray beard EE's are probably not (on average) making too much more than $120-130K/year, and lots of young and middle-age engineers working for $60-90K/year. --- End quote --- You can't live comfortably in Silicon Valley on that kind of salary. Maybe a couple of such incomes could get by... https://sf.curbed.com/2018/3/2/17073100/silicon-valley-house-home-sunnyvale-record-price-crisis You can go to bls.gov and check median incomes by occupation and location. Growth is not favorable for EEs, CS types make more money and the field is growing faster by a LOT. The problem I have with bls.gov is that they seem to comingle electrical engineering (power and such) with electronics engineering. --- End quote --- I was talking in generalities, not really talking about the few oddball places around the country. Bay Area is a ridiculous place on so many levels. Yes there are lots of EE jobs in Silicon Valley, but I’m talking about Joe Average at a more normal place in the country. You will almost always be compensated more if you work in Silicon Valley. |
| RJSV:
Thinking over these ideas while reading here, some opposites come to mind. Personally, most of us could use more success. It could be a special class of science, meta-data related: to document any interesting factors, related to successes missed. (Termed a 'near success', lol). Like, for example, a study relating 'gum chewing' to business success (just a silly example). But more to this point maybe a (social / psychology) study examining thoughts and observations a particular engineer / participant had been experiencing, at a break-thru time. AND, since we want / need technical progress, it is a good thing, to examine BOTH dynamics, of failures because we want to improve, and dynamics of success. So, in that vein, I remember Van Gogh, arguably the most successful but simultaneously miserable. Plus you know, the legacy of Van Gogh's work took decades to grow, separate from his life-span. So, uh, What advice could be given, to a 26 year old Van Gogh, for increasing his success more immediate. Make sense ? |
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