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Offline slateraptor

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See attached PNG snippet or PDF of Harting's CAD model terms of use.

Which begs the question: Why is there a legal notice on U.S. tobacco sales in a well-known German interconnect manufacturer's terms of use for 3D CAD models?? :-\

As if vanilla legalese wasn't sufficiently convoluted to begin with... |O
 

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Re: Tobacco notice in interconnect manufacturer's CAD model terms of use
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2015, 07:18:24 am »
If we can save just one child it'll all be worth it!  ;D
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Re: Tobacco notice in interconnect manufacturer's CAD model terms of use
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2015, 07:28:29 am »
I'm suspecting some ctrl+c ctrl+v :-DD

Edit: Searched it up, there's no matches.  :-//
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Re: Tobacco notice in interconnect manufacturer's CAD model terms of use
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2015, 07:35:35 am »
See attached PNG snippet or PDF of Harting's CAD model terms of use.

Which begs the question: Why is there a legal notice on U.S. tobacco sales in a well-known German interconnect manufacturer's terms of use for 3D CAD models?? :-\

As if vanilla legalese wasn't sufficiently convoluted to begin with... |O

legal team had too much socially responsibly harvested coffee perhaps
or ate too many dolphin-safe tuna sandwiches
or it's simply a left over from a copy-and-paste job


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Re: Tobacco notice in interconnect manufacturer's CAD model terms of use
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2015, 07:49:51 am »
Maybe he's going to give a prize to the first person who actually reads the EULA and questions him about it.   :-DD

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Re: Tobacco notice in interconnect manufacturer's CAD model terms of use
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2015, 09:24:07 am »
The way the American legal system works this does not surprise me, after all, we have parents taking games manufacturers to court after their children grab a gun and run around shooting people. Here's a rough guess why that clause may be in there:

1) CAD Software is used at some point to design stand housing packets of cigarettes.

2) Someone under 18 buys pack of cigarettes.

3) Later that child gets cancer.

4) Parents of child sues the retailer, the tobacco manufacturer, the company who printed the packs, the manufacturer of the stand the cigarette packs were on and the manufacturer of the CAD package used to design the stand.

I've worked with lawyers, this is now unfortunately quite common.
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Re: Tobacco notice in interconnect manufacturer's CAD model terms of use
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2015, 09:35:25 am »
The way the American legal system works this does not surprise me, after all, we have parents taking games manufacturers to court after their children grab a gun and run around shooting people. Here's a rough guess why that clause may be in there:

1) CAD Software is used at some point to design stand housing packets of cigarettes.

2) Someone under 18 buys pack of cigarettes.

3) Later that child gets cancer.

4) Parents of child sues the retailer, the tobacco manufacturer, the company who printed the packs, the manufacturer of the stand the cigarette packs were on and the manufacturer of the CAD package used to design the stand.

I've worked with lawyers, this is now unfortunately quite common.

That's pretty extreme. I guess at the end of the day, it's all about money.  :--
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Re: Tobacco notice in interconnect manufacturer's CAD model terms of use
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2015, 10:16:44 am »
The way the American legal system works this does not surprise me, after all, we have parents taking games manufacturers to court after their children grab a gun and run around shooting people. Here's a rough guess why that clause may be in there:

1) CAD Software is used at some point to design stand housing packets of cigarettes.

2) Someone under 18 buys pack of cigarettes.

3) Later that child gets cancer.

4) Parents of child sues the retailer, the tobacco manufacturer, the company who printed the packs, the manufacturer of the stand the cigarette packs were on and the manufacturer of the CAD package used to design the stand.

I've worked with lawyers, this is now unfortunately quite common.
The citry that built the road that led to the stand,
the truck manufacturer the pack were transported into,
the fuel company for providing fuel for the truck,
the tires installed on the whhels of the truck,
the clothes manufactured the truck driver was wearing
the electric company for powering the stand the cigs were sold,
the electrician that installed the light bulbs ... and it goes on...and on...and on....

Digikey doesn't have a tabacco section ( or pullution or wildlife protection or guns or speeding or driving drunk) so it must be translation of the American Law as understood by a German attorney with English skills not quite as good as he/she thinks it is.

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Re: Tobacco notice in interconnect manufacturer's CAD model terms of use
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2015, 01:31:56 pm »
Go back a decade or so and a company called The SCO Group were suing Linux users because, in their view, they held the copyright on certain aspects in the Linux kernel. Not the distributions or the programmers behind them, the users. We also have the manufacturers of computer games that I mentioned previously but if you really want silly legal cases try the following:

1) a 59-year-old woman is suing her company’s landlord after she was badly injured in a vicious attack by a seagull. She was left injured by the bird’s dive-bombing and now suing the owner of the office building where she works, claiming it did not take sufficient care for her safety.

2) A 26-year-old pimp from Portland, Oreogan sued Nike for £60million claiming the shoe manufacturer is partially responsible for a brutal beating that helped net him a 100-year prison sentence. Sirgiorgiro Clardy claims Nike should have placed a label in his Nike Air Jordan shoes warning consumers that they could be used as a dangerous weapon. He was wearing a pair when he repeatedly stomped the face of a man who was trying to leave a Portland hotel without paying Clardy’s prostitute in June 2012.

3) A Woman wanted to enter a nightclub through its toilet window so she would not have to pay the $3.50 entrance fee. As a result, she fell down the floor and knocked out her two front teeth. She was awarded $12,000 and got all her dental expenses paid.

Sign a contract in 1900 and it would have been on a single sheet of paper, sign a contract now and you have countless pages of small print thanks to cases like this.
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Re: Tobacco notice in interconnect manufacturer's CAD model terms of use
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2015, 02:40:28 pm »
The fact is, the US legal system is largely inaccessible to almost all people, dangerously so, because those with lots of money get away with anything and everything fairly consistently, and almost no lawyers take cases on contingencies, (you pay them if you win). To give one example, medical malpractice cases are fewer and malpractice insurance and payouts are a lower percentage of health care costs, than they have ever been at any previous time in history. Nonetheless the right wing tries to blame insanely high US healthcare and drug costs on them.

On the victims of mangled care.

My guess that blurb is a joke, or a mistake.
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Re: Tobacco notice in interconnect manufacturer's CAD model terms of use
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2015, 09:35:09 pm »
TFW people read web pages in full screen (maximized) windows  ???
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Re: Tobacco notice in interconnect manufacturer's CAD model terms of use
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2015, 05:06:39 am »
They forgot to add the California Prop 65 label for possible hazardous materials in the 3D files.

 

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Re: Tobacco notice in interconnect manufacturer's CAD model terms of use
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2015, 05:52:10 am »
One of the conspiracies says governments make very strict laws and encourage people to break it so that the government can make bargain with anyone because anyone is somehow illegal.
 

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Re: Tobacco notice in interconnect manufacturer's CAD model terms of use
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2015, 04:19:18 pm »
Maybe he's going to give a prize to the first person who actually reads the EULA and questions him about it.   :-DD

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Bingo.  I once had a colleague who had to write a lengthy monthly status report that he was sure no one read.  He inserted the sentence "I'll buy a full dinner at the finest house in town for anyone who reports this sentence to me."  It was months before he had a taker.  Unfortunately the one who caught it was his boss, who was not amused.  Made paying for the dinner problematic.
 

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Re: Tobacco notice in interconnect manufacturer's CAD model terms of use
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2015, 04:49:48 pm »
maybe the connectors shell is made from bio plastic made from tobacco leaves.. in which case it would be illegal to sell such connector to minors.
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Re: Tobacco notice in interconnect manufacturer's CAD model terms of use
« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2015, 05:11:42 pm »
maybe the connectors shell is made from bio plastic made from tobacco leaves.. in which case it would be illegal to sell such connector to minors.

Nanny state run amuck! After a hard day down t'pit they should be allowed to use any connectors they see fit...
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