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Offline m3vuvTopic starter

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« on: April 27, 2022, 03:20:21 am »
why are topics and posts being removed and shifted around without any explanations?,its anoying when folks are still participting in them imho,any ideas,seemd like certain mods are acting like tin gods,or at least thats my impression,what are folks views on this?
 

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« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2022, 04:17:05 am »
You are the one that created two different threads in two different sections asking the same thing, so I deleted the one that had no menaingful replies.
I left the one with replies intacts but it was in the wrong section so I moved it to test equipment where it belongs.
When mods move threads to another section we have two options, one is to create redirection topic, but this just pollutes that section with another thread, and is generally only done for really important existing threads.
It could even be argued that your remaing thread shouldn't be there because there are existing exhaustive threads on this topic, and you choice of title implied that you were posting the hack method, not mearly asking for somethign that already exists in other threads that have been here for years. This just pollutes the search results.
It could be argued that your new thread should just be locked after linking to main thread as it's just needlessly duplicating content.
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/rigol-bw-hack/
« Last Edit: April 27, 2022, 04:24:26 am by EEVblog »
 
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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2022, 04:19:24 am »
You have a box that have screws and one that have nails. Are you going to put washers on any of those or are you going to use another box for washers?

Exactly that. Some topics are on the wrong section of the forum, they get moved. Topics who go against the rules of the forum or that turn into other thing that the discussion of the subject itself (common here is Politics, CoVID and Conspiracy theories) normally get blocked or removed.

Duplicates get merged.
« Last Edit: April 27, 2022, 04:22:25 am by Black Phoenix »
 
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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2022, 04:30:29 am »
Please stop shit-canning the mods and admins.
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« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2022, 04:32:11 am »
thats fair comment,how about the mods start removng old posts with non working dead links in as well,that would save a lot of grief.,i spent almost a day looking for the firmware i needed due to dead links,luckily github had it.,thats why i linked it as it still works.
 

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« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2022, 04:33:48 am »
thats fair comment,how about the mods start removng old posts with non working dead links in as well,that would save a lot of grief.,i spent almost a day looking for the firmware i needed due to dead links,luckily github had it.,thats why i linked it as it still works.

This forum has almost 2.5M posts:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/stats/
 

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« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2022, 04:34:55 am »
how about the mods start removng old posts with non working dead links in as well

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« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2022, 06:44:12 am »
*SOMEONE* has never heard of the Internet Archive.   Many's the time I have found a link to a page that's gone to domain parking or other bit-rot, and been able to reach the content I need via their service, which would be near-impossible without knowing the old URL and a date it was valid. Other times, knowing the old URL for broken direct file links gives me the filename and facilitates googling for it. 'Gardening' old posts with bit-rotted links is actively harmful to this community unless done by a SME who can take the time to track down content that's moved. and understands when its better to leave well enough alone . . .
 
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« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2022, 07:30:58 am »
thats fair comment,how about the mods start removng old posts with non working dead links in as well,that would save a lot of grief.,i spent almost a day looking for the firmware i needed due to dead links,luckily github had it.,thats why i linked it as it still works.

Maybe you should report them then, we are not telepathic but then we are not the guardians of the internet and no warranty is offered.
 
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« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2022, 12:51:57 pm »
You are the one that created two different threads in two different sections asking the same thing

I thought it was at least three. The third one, seems to be here:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/beginners/rigol-scope-differences/msg4136050/#msg4136050

In fairness, it does word the bandwidth question differently, but is basically the same thread. Or at least about the same scope, and hacking it.

But Gnif, was already complaining about multiple/duplicate threads, even when that one was created. So maybe there were others, that have also been merged/closed/deleted, I'm not sure. It's too confusing now, as the dates are close together, and other thread(s) are already merged or deleted.

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It makes it rather difficult to follow topics, and/or help in them. If basically the same thread, is repeated in several different places. By combining the information, in those different threads. It seems to be more obvious, that the scope they might or have bought, is a much older model (d), which either doesn't accept the bandwidth hack at all, or needs to be persuaded to accept the newer 'e' models 'hackable' firmware. Which risks bricking the scope.

Individually, the threads make much less sense.

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Best to create ONE thread for a topic, like 'Help with hacking my new scope, the Rigol DS1052D'. Rather than lots of short, repeating ones, all over the place. As it makes it VERY difficult to follow or understand them. It also tends to waste lots of members time, repeating the same answers, all the time.
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« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2022, 06:31:16 pm »
merging threads is a nightmare and virtually a non feature, I will just randomly lock one of them if necessary, usually it get's reported soon enough that one of them has no replies.
 
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« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2022, 07:09:13 pm »
merging threads is a nightmare and virtually a non feature, I will just randomly lock one of them if necessary, usually it get's reported soon enough that one of them has no replies.

Merging can also make the resulting combined thread, confusing. As some replies, might not correspond, time wise, causing confusion.

I think the OP doesn't seem to realize, that poorly written questions, that are difficult to read, and tend to cause confusion, attitude issues at times, and hence probably being on a number of members ignored lists and/or just manually ignored. Result in them getting few responses and poor quality answers.

I still can't really understand why they don't patiently save up and just buy quality/working test equipment, and take care of stuff.  Rather than buying, already old and/or broken equipment, which they don't seem to realize is too often beyond their patience/knowledge, to ever successfully repair.

But I suppose, each to their own.
 
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« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2022, 07:14:10 pm »
I started ignoring a while ago, virtually all of his posts are barely legible txt-speak and the bad attitude and complaining about people that are trying to help finally pushed me over the edge. I can't be bothered to put time into helping somebody who can't be bothered to at least attempt to use some semblance of proper grammar and not be confrontational with people who are trying to help.
 
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« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2022, 07:23:33 pm »
merging threads is a nightmare and virtually a non feature, I will just randomly lock one of them if necessary, usually it get's reported soon enough that one of them has no replies.

Merging can also make the resulting combined thread, confusing. As some replies, might not correspond, time wise, causing confusion.

I think the OP doesn't seem to realize, that poorly written questions, that are difficult to read, and tend to cause confusion, attitude issues at times, and hence probably being on a number of members ignored lists and/or just manually ignored. Result in them getting few responses and poor quality answers.

I still can't really understand why they don't patiently save up and just buy quality/working test equipment, and take care of stuff.  Rather than buying, already old and/or broken equipment, which they don't seem to realize is too often beyond their patience/knowledge, to ever successfully repair.

But I suppose, each to their own.

I thought the replies were ordered together by time, it can cause confusion if a post is inserted between two others
 
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« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2022, 07:33:49 pm »
I thought the replies were ordered together by time, it can cause confusion if a post is inserted between two others

Sorry, it was a poor quality explanation on MY part. You are quite right.

What I meant was that there are (assuming 2 original threads) two sets of threads, just before they are merged together. So, the reply immediately before each post. Might actually be from the other thread.

So, although the forum software would get the timings of the posts correct. Any answers to posts, WITHOUT quoting which post they were referring to, could cause confusion. As they might come from the other thread.

It is a much harder concept to explain, than I originally realized.

EDIT:
What I was trying to say, seems to be nicely included in your previous reply "it can cause confusion if a post is inserted between two others".

So I meant the original time lines are WRONG, in that a previous post, might be from a DIFFERENT timeline, i.e. another thread. Potentially causing much confusion (just as you just said).

TL;DR
Correct time, but WRONG thread in that timeline. Is what I meant.
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« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2022, 07:43:50 pm »
I started ignoring a while ago, virtually all of his posts are barely legible txt-speak and the bad attitude and complaining about people that are trying to help finally pushed me over the edge. I can't be bothered to put time into helping somebody who can't be bothered to at least attempt to use some semblance of proper grammar and not be confrontational with people who are trying to help.

I think they (OP) often/sometimes, want to use this forum, like a very quick, social media, sort of rapid question and answer, internet place. A bit like Youtube comments, which also tend to seem a rather rough/quick/messy and rude at times place, for discussions.
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« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2022, 11:53:23 pm »
merging threads is a nightmare and virtually a non feature, I will just randomly lock one of them if necessary, usually it get's reported soon enough that one of them has no replies.

Yes, merging is messy. Only done when absolutely necessary.
 


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