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"Training out the stupid"
Ed.Kloonk:
Seems funny to me the need to 'interview'.
If you need the job done, you should be able to size up the person in a three minute informal chat. Unless it's for years-long contracts, such scrutiny is just for the power trip. Hire and fire as required.
Non-Abelian:
--- Quote from: james_s on December 14, 2020, 05:48:40 pm ---I remember interviewing someone who had a PhD in EE, I was looking forward to talking to them because they had some quite interesting stuff on their resume but they turned out to be hugely disappointing and didn't really seem to know much of anything practical. It seems there are some people who are just very skilled at taking classes and passing exams. I don't know that "stupid" is the right word for it, but some people just lack the practical ability to do things that are not part of a structured course.
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We used to have a saying in the lab. You can tell who the theorists are because they read the instructions for the copy machine.
tggzzz:
--- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on December 16, 2020, 08:10:14 am ---Seems funny to me the need to 'interview'.
If you need the job done, you should be able to size up the person in a three minute informal chat. Unless it's for years-long contracts, such scrutiny is just for the power trip. Hire and fire as required.
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That's a beguiling concept, but it is equivalent to HR discarding CVs because they don't have some certification or buzzword.
If I had ever applied that concept, I would have missed several extremely good and creative people. Not recommended.
Non-Abelian:
--- Quote from: Cerebus on December 14, 2020, 02:40:28 pm ---Elsewhere, Cjay said:
I wonder if Cjay has hit on an explanation for a phemomenon that I've encountered quite a lot. When I've been in a management position and hiring people I've noticed that there are a lot of people out there who, on paper, are well qualified, but in practice are useless.
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Yeah, and I have a relative who is one of those. He works in IT (and has reached the level of manager), has zillions of certificates, gets paid a lot of money, but has no idea how to even use a command line or write a script that echos "Hello." I am convinced lots of companies pay by the number of content free buzzwords someone can recite by rote. To the best I can tell, the hardest thing he's ever done is install software (that he doesn't know how to use) and tell people to reboot their machines.
Ed.Kloonk:
--- Quote from: tggzzz on December 16, 2020, 09:18:00 am ---
--- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on December 16, 2020, 08:10:14 am ---Seems funny to me the need to 'interview'.
If you need the job done, you should be able to size up the person in a three minute informal chat. Unless it's for years-long contracts, such scrutiny is just for the power trip. Hire and fire as required.
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That's a beguiling concept, but it is equivalent to HR discarding CVs because they don't have some certification or buzzword.
If I had ever applied that concept, I would have missed several extremely good and creative people. Not recommended.
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I understand what your saying. But in my world, time is money. If your subordinate is not making you money, you know, within hours of starting, then they are costing you money. I realize corporate HR is different. What gets me is that a HR department can spend forever choosing someone who still turns out to be a dud. But is anyone in the HR department ever responsible?
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