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| CJay:
--- Quote from: pardo-bsso on December 20, 2020, 12:55:24 pm --- --- Quote from: coppice on December 17, 2020, 10:55:03 pm --- --- Quote from: pardo-bsso on December 17, 2020, 10:45:40 pm ---Back on topic, recently I did a couple of courses aimed at people with a university degree or higher and the bar to pass the final exam was a complete joke. I'm not the brightest bulb but they were also starting to let everyone go when I got my title some years ago. --- End quote --- A serious problem with people paying the full cost of their education is they become a customer, and its very hard to expect anything of them, or fail them. As universities have expanded from a place for the wealthy or very smart to a mass market, most have followed a path of grabbing all the students they can, with little regard for ability or preparedness. You can't expect much of people like that. --- End quote --- Sad thing is, education here is `free` and our universities are still regarded as high quality on a global level (albeit ranking lower). You can find excellence and and attitude towards that but overall the trend is not going that way. --- End quote --- There seems to be some bizarre idea that more graduates equals better so we've got a system that became really good at awarding lots of degrees that are of no use to anyone other than the people who profit form awarding them. |
| SilverSolder:
--- Quote from: CJay on December 20, 2020, 06:34:32 pm ---[...] There seems to be some bizarre idea that more graduates equals better so we've got a system that became really good at awarding lots of degrees that are of no use to anyone other than the people who profit form awarding them. --- End quote --- I recently read an article that theorized that the disappointment of a massive number of downcast and discontented graduates chasing too few good jobs was part of the general climate that e.g. led to Trump, Brexit, etc. |
| Ed.Kloonk:
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on December 20, 2020, 07:01:15 pm --- --- Quote from: CJay on December 20, 2020, 06:34:32 pm ---[...] There seems to be some bizarre idea that more graduates equals better so we've got a system that became really good at awarding lots of degrees that are of no use to anyone other than the people who profit form awarding them. --- End quote --- I recently read an article that theorized that the disappointment of a massive number of downcast and discontented graduates chasing too few good jobs was part of the general climate that e.g. led to Trump, Brexit, etc. --- End quote --- There is a university that advertises regularly on the radio here. A few years ago they popped up with an ad slagging off other places that have an established curriculum. The gimmick was that a student could a-la-carte their way to a graduation of some sort. Yesterday I heard the same place's latest ad talks about how much integrity they have. Painted themselves into a corner. |
| Cerebus:
--- Quote from: CJay on December 20, 2020, 06:34:32 pm ---There seems to be some bizarre idea that more graduates equals better so we've got a system that became really good at awarding lots of degrees that are of no use to anyone other than the people who profit form awarding them. --- End quote --- I think it was pure cynicism on the behalf of New Labour. There was an observation that graduates were more likely to vote for a middle class version of left-leaning politics, the exact demographic the (failed) SDP had aimed for, and they thought that broadening the group of people who went to university was a way to create a bigger pool of voters sympathetic to New Labour's 'Tory lite' policies. They just rode on the back of all the earlier Tory messing about with higher education adding their own twist to it. So, suddenly we had university degrees in hotel management, leisure management and other things with a much lower entry bar than academic and engineering subjects. |
| bd139:
Think you may have just hit the nail through the wood with that one. |
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