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themadhippy:

--- Quote --- It was basically a slow release button that took a couple of minutes to turn itself off once it was pushed in
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the original version could easily be bypassed with a match stick,push in button and wedge a match stick between button and case
james_s:

--- Quote from: John B on October 25, 2022, 07:38:34 am ---Those kinds of switches sound like something that died out in the early 2000's. They were used in public toilets. It was basically a slow release button that took a couple of minutes to turn itself off once it was pushed in. Utterly terrible, very annoying.

Maybe install one in the daughter's room?

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Those do sound annoying. At least the ones I'm referring to have PIR sensors, but when they're installed in place of conventional switches the PIR sensors often are in a far from optimal location to see occupants of the room. We have them in the conference rooms at the place I currently work and they're fine in those, anyone present anywhere in the room is enough to keep the lights on.
AVGresponding:

--- Quote from: james_s on October 25, 2022, 05:38:15 pm ---
--- Quote from: John B on October 25, 2022, 07:38:34 am ---Those kinds of switches sound like something that died out in the early 2000's. They were used in public toilets. It was basically a slow release button that took a couple of minutes to turn itself off once it was pushed in. Utterly terrible, very annoying.

Maybe install one in the daughter's room?

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Those do sound annoying. At least the ones I'm referring to have PIR sensors, but when they're installed in place of conventional switches the PIR sensors often are in a far from optimal location to see occupants of the room. We have them in the conference rooms at the place I currently work and they're fine in those, anyone present anywhere in the room is enough to keep the lights on.

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If they are relatively still, ie reading a book or something, the sensor won't pick them up. Microwave sensors aren't really any better either, I find it very annoying to have to wave at the damn things every 5, 10, 15 minutes, or whatever the timer has been set at.

If you're slow enough, you can move past a PIR without setting it off, haven't tried it with a mw sensor though.
Kasper:

--- Quote from: AVGresponding on October 26, 2022, 04:02:48 pm ---
[...]I find it very annoying to have to wave at the damn things every 5, 10, 15 minutes, or whatever the timer has been set at.

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A contact sensor on the door and a bit of logic can help with that: room can't become vacant while door is closed.
james_s:

--- Quote from: Kasper on October 26, 2022, 04:33:54 pm ---
--- Quote from: AVGresponding on October 26, 2022, 04:02:48 pm ---
[...]I find it very annoying to have to wave at the damn things every 5, 10, 15 minutes, or whatever the timer has been set at.

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A contact sensor on the door and a bit of logic can help with that: room can't become vacant while door is closed.

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I think you'd have trouble making that reliable. It's fairly common for somebody to open the door as they are entering/exiting and then somebody else passes the other way before it closes. There are also times when multiple people will enter a room at once and only a portion of them leave.
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