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Re: Twitter now requires login to browse tweets.
« Reply #50 on: July 01, 2023, 07:55:15 pm »
I just thought if this login enforcement has to do with the riots in France. Seems plausible. Croud control through cutting off means of communication.
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Re: Twitter now requires login to browse tweets.
« Reply #51 on: July 01, 2023, 08:02:13 pm »
This was likely related to scraping bots, since they instituted view limits on paying/registered/unregistered accounts and the smallest is 600 twits in a day or something like that. This should be fine, if you need to view more than 600 twits, you really need to get a life.
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Re: Twitter now requires login to browse tweets.
« Reply #52 on: July 01, 2023, 09:14:37 pm »
Indeed. ;D
 

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Re: Twitter now requires login to browse tweets.
« Reply #53 on: July 01, 2023, 09:52:39 pm »
This should be fine, if you need to view more than 600 twits, you really need to get a life.

Or an account.
 

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Re: Twitter now requires login to browse tweets.
« Reply #54 on: July 01, 2023, 10:00:07 pm »
This was likely related to scraping bots, since they instituted view limits on paying/registered/unregistered accounts and the smallest is 600 twits in a day or something like that. This should be fine, if you need to view more than 600 twits, you really need to get a life.

You say that but you might use up half of that just scrolling past the crypto SPAM.  :-DD (it's apparently total tweets loaded)

Supposedly the quota will be increased to 800 soon. That doesn't like "bot activity" to me and more like they are having serious operational issues and are desperately trying to reduce load?

This should be fine, if you need to view more than 600 twits, you really need to get a life.

Or an account.

No, that is the limit with a (free) account. You can't read any tweets anymore without one.
 

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Re: Twitter now requires login to browse tweets.
« Reply #55 on: July 01, 2023, 10:03:22 pm »
Musk 4hrs ago:

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To address extreme levels of data scraping & system manipulation, we’ve applied the following temporary limits:

- Verified accounts are limited to reading 6000 posts/day
- Unverified accounts to 600 posts/day
- New unverified accounts to 300/day
 

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Re: Twitter now requires login to browse tweets.
« Reply #56 on: July 01, 2023, 10:10:38 pm »
"Verified" = paid account now, right?
 

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Re: Twitter now requires login to browse tweets.
« Reply #57 on: July 01, 2023, 10:18:56 pm »
Want some help with data scraping? https://scrapfly.io/blog/how-to-scrape-twitter/
 

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Re: Twitter now requires login to browse tweets.
« Reply #58 on: July 01, 2023, 10:27:59 pm »
Seems to be working, limits increased twice now.
 

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Re: Twitter now requires login to browse tweets.
« Reply #59 on: July 01, 2023, 10:51:55 pm »
Apparently the web client has (had?) a bug where rate limiting caused it to retry indefinitely without any backoff. I don't know if this was actually the cause of their problems or just made them worse. But it is objectively quite funny (if you don't work at Twitter).

https://sfba.social/@sysop408/110639435788921057
 

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Re: Twitter now requires login to browse tweets.
« Reply #60 on: July 01, 2023, 11:05:43 pm »
I'm thinking, cynical, of requiring everyone to sign-in, submit password, in order to speak with me...
Ridiculous of course, but the point is, to make a bunch of baggage, to wade through, if you need my OK or other response, for personal business...like ordering a burger at the counter.
   "Would you like the single? Or the MEAL ?".
   "We're sorry; You must enter user name and password, for Rick' verbal activation."

   Just really muck things up, forcing EVERYONE to comply.   Boy, that'd be nice; to have the power to cause everybody to comply with a stupid and time consuming login, that doesn't serve any obvious need.  Unless it's data tracking, but THAT still don't fit my agenda.

(Just think how little a fellow like me would get, forcing or trying to force others to do a password action.
I'd probably starve).
 


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Re: Twitter now requires login to browse tweets.
« Reply #62 on: July 02, 2023, 04:07:04 am »
"I don't always test code, but when I do I test in production"
 

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Re: Twitter now requires login to browse tweets.
« Reply #63 on: July 02, 2023, 06:48:45 am »
"I don't always test code, but when I do I test in production"

"given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow"
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Re: Twitter now requires login to browse tweets.
« Reply #64 on: July 02, 2023, 07:14:14 am »
"given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow"
I like to say:
"Given enough bugs, all eyes are shallow"
(And that's one of the reasons for stuff like Heartbleed)

Seems to fit nicely here.
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Re: Twitter now requires login to browse tweets.
« Reply #65 on: July 02, 2023, 07:25:39 am »
I have no idea if it is true. It fits the image though, that makes this compelling.

It currently makes the rounds that Musk did not renew a hosting contract with Google, and Twitter currently does simply not have the ressources for unlimited use anymore.
It fits, since Twitter also does not pay rent anymore for several offices, and Musk apparently does not care.

It just shows again: The software engineers at Twitter before it was sold apparently really knew what they were doing. That it is still running, if slow, is astonishing.
 

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Re: Twitter now requires login to browse tweets.
« Reply #66 on: July 02, 2023, 09:21:56 am »
 
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Re: Twitter now requires login to browse tweets.
« Reply #67 on: July 02, 2023, 09:27:57 am »
Twitter is DDOSing itself?  :o
https://waxy.org/2023/07/twitter-bug-causes-self-ddos-possibly-causing-elon-musks-emergency-blocks-and-rate-limits-its-amateur-hour/

... when you fire too many employees, things go really bad, and you need some smoke screen to hide it: it must be the LLM scrapers :horse:
 

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Re: Twitter now requires login to browse tweets.
« Reply #68 on: July 02, 2023, 09:53:12 am »
It currently makes the rounds that Musk did not renew a hosting contract with Google, and Twitter currently does simply not have the ressources for unlimited use anymore.
It fits, since Twitter also does not pay rent anymore for several offices, and Musk apparently does not care.

I think the new CEO smoothed things over with Google (https://www.reuters.com/technology/twitter-resumes-paying-google-cloud-bloomberg-news-2023-06-21/). I guess they may still have reduced the capacity to save money?

But cutting down on infrastructure to save money would be a very strange move if it means limiting user activity. Surely the ad revenue from a page impression can't be lower than its incremental cost. That would be completely unsustainable.
 

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Re: Twitter now requires login to browse tweets.
« Reply #69 on: July 02, 2023, 07:26:26 pm »
I'm sure you guys would be very good at running Twitter.
Not sure why Musk doesn't even think about it. What a moron!
 
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Re: Twitter now requires login to browse tweets.
« Reply #70 on: July 02, 2023, 07:32:41 pm »
Eh, I would be rubbish running anything. But since Twitter has been turned into a moderately amusing reality show, we all stand chatting by the (metaphorical) water cooler, trying to puzzle out wtf is going on and wondering what will happen in the next episode.
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Re: Twitter now requires login to browse tweets.
« Reply #71 on: July 03, 2023, 06:52:06 am »
But since Twitter has been turned into a moderately amusing reality show, we all stand chatting by the (metaphorical) water cooler, trying to puzzle out wtf is going on and wondering what will happen in the next episode.
And like all TV shows, there will always be a twist in the plot D:
 

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Re: Twitter now requires login to browse tweets.
« Reply #72 on: July 03, 2023, 09:21:16 pm »
"Verified" = paid account now, right?
It depends which week you ask this.
 

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Re: Twitter now requires login to browse tweets.
« Reply #73 on: July 04, 2023, 10:36:40 pm »
"Verified" = paid account now, right?

So you no longer give Musk your data for nowt but actually pay him to take it, and then he whines because someone else allegedly helps themselves to it instead of paying Musk (again!) for it.
 


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