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UK abolishes <£15 VAT free imports. EU to follow.

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madires:

--- Quote from: SilverSolder on January 26, 2021, 03:21:48 pm ---
--- Quote from: Fraser on January 26, 2021, 01:09:15 pm ---
[...] The issue occurs if the seller includes local VAT in the price then adds additional UK VAT on top so the buyer pays VAT twice ! [...]

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Yes, the EU based sellers now have to treat the UK as an export - which is of course more hassle, so many sellers choose to leave the price alone and pocket the difference as a fee for the extra processing!

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They can't keep the local VAT. If they bill VAT they have to pay/transfer the VAT to their tax office.

SilverSolder:

--- Quote from: madires on January 26, 2021, 04:01:47 pm ---
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on January 26, 2021, 03:21:48 pm ---
--- Quote from: Fraser on January 26, 2021, 01:09:15 pm ---
[...] The issue occurs if the seller includes local VAT in the price then adds additional UK VAT on top so the buyer pays VAT twice ! [...]

--- End quote ---

Yes, the EU based sellers now have to treat the UK as an export - which is of course more hassle, so many sellers choose to leave the price alone and pocket the difference as a fee for the extra processing!

--- End quote ---

They can't keep the local VAT. If they bill VAT they have to pay/transfer the VAT to their tax office.

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When you buy something via eBay, the price in the listing does not contain a separately billed VAT element.   In the US, eBay adds sales tax to whatever the listing price is, whether or not that listing price included VAT. 

So, for example, if a US buyer purchases from a UK seller, they will pay whatever the price seller listed at (which may include local VAT if he is registered).  Then, they will get dinged again with US sales tax. 

Good luck contacting the seller and asking for a VAT refund!

This same situation now applies to residents of the UK - think of it as your contribution to sovereignty, which is priceless, so you really got a bargain!  :D

all_repair:
Yah, it is a problem paying other country VAT with no certainty of getting the money back, or have to go through a lot of hassle to get back.  For MUST have item, I shall take the risk and go through the pain.  BUT almost all the time, I did not proceed after a moment of mental struggle.  On too many occasions, I did not do the final check out for my items from UK sellers.

IanB:

--- Quote from: SilverSolder on January 26, 2021, 05:42:46 pm ---So, for example, if a US buyer purchases from a UK seller, they will pay whatever the price seller listed at (which may include local VAT if he is registered).  Then, they will get dinged again with US sales tax.
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Historically it has been the case that if I were to buy something from Amazon.uk and give a delivery address in the USA then the price charged would exclude VAT. If delivered within the UK then the price would include VAT.

I have not checked whether Brexit has changed that.

Fraser:
The issue of VAT (and possibly DUTY) being applied to imports to the UK from the EU was discussed on the BBC "The One Show" evening chat program today. One thing that was mentioned that caught my ear was the case of a person buying some £300 shoes for a discounted price of £70 from the EU and getting clobbered for VAT, Duty and Processing Fees by the courier. Apparently the value of the item dictates whether the VAT is collected by the seller or courier .... sounds simple except that the "value" is the RRP and not a discounted price ! That meant the shoes were considered to have a value of £300 when it came to who collected the VAT. The courier charged a large chunk of money for paperwork fees. Something to be aware of. Thankfully the VAT is charged on the amount paid and not the notional RRP Value !

Fraser

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