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UK abolishes <£15 VAT free imports. EU to follow.
sleemanj:
I was going to say "I'm sure they won't care and it will go through as if the seller was under VAT threshold anyway", but then I read this...
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/changes-to-vat-treatment-of-overseas-goods-sold-to-customers-from-1-january-2021/changes-to-vat-treatment-of-overseas-goods-sold-to-customers-from-1-january-2021
Especially...
--- Quote from: gov.uk ---There is no VAT registration threshold for businesses established outside the UK so you will be required to register for VAT on any value of sales where you become liable for VAT under these new measures.
--- End quote ---
That's nuts. So me, a tiny one man band who has on very very rare occasion sold something low value to a UK customer, is required to register for VAT. Yeah, sod that. UK is off my xmas card list, and onto my shipping restrictions list.
magic:
It's not about you, you are just collateral. It's about the fact that everything has been outsourced to China so the manufacturers cannot be taxed anymore. As long as it was being imported to Europe by "European" companies slapping their badge on it, the governments could at least tax the importers, but now that anyone can order direct, they are basically going to reach asymptotically zero income unless they intervene somehow. And all of that while the amount of free shit that sheeple want form the government keeps growing with no limit in sight.
That's what the blind worship of capitalism, globalism and socialism gets you.
Fun times :horse: :popcorn:
bingo600:
As i see it from a hobby perspective , and low price orders:
I have no problems paying 25% VAT on my 16$ PCB's , but the $23 fee that DK-Mail wants for collecting $4 in VAT.
That is prohibiting me to do continue.
The JLPCB wants to keep the "hobby orders" , they need to figure out a way for me to avoid the $23 fee.
The DK web shops are complaining about unfair competition , as low price china packets are not eglible for VAT (€10.5 limit here).
But i pay $2 for an USB cable in china , and $14 in a DK webshop ... Thats a lot more than 25% - They're too greedy.
They think they can begin to charge $14 for a cable again , but all that is going to happen is that Amazon will get "richer" , as i can get the same cable at amazon.de for 5..7$.
Edit:
The "Free postage from China" is almost gone here in DK , and i think the "china mail rebate" is fully gone within 1..2 years (fair enough)
I usually select Aliexpress shipping anyways , as the stuff arrives within 2..3 weeks , instead of 5..8 weeks.
/Bingo
tom66:
The regulations state that gifts up to £39 are exempt so instead I expect sellers to just illegally mark these as gifts of low value, which rarely get checked.
bingo600:
--- Quote from: tom66 on January 10, 2021, 10:20:03 am ---The regulations state that gifts up to £39 are exempt so instead I expect sellers to just illegally mark these as gifts of low value, which rarely get checked.
--- End quote ---
In EU ALL imports are VAT eglible after 01-Jun-2021
Btw:
The DK customs have done several checks of VAT fraud w. china packets marked under the DK limit.
They found that more that 97% was below the limit , and legal.
So the fraud isn't something they were concerned aboud.
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