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Monkeh:

--- Quote from: Majorbob on February 13, 2021, 06:26:23 am ---Aesthetics will come later when I've determined the viability.  My goal at this stage is to gain an understanding of why it seems such an unpopular idea and whether it's worth continuing with.
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Specifically burying it in the wall behind skirting is not acceptable for the reason I gave. Putting it in the skirting is unpopular because it's ugly.


--- Quote ---Deep skirting with enough material to make space for T&E is available, and skirting can easily be high enough to have seperate channels for data/power/TV etc.

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Products are specifically available for this purpose. They're ugly, and if you paint them the paint is destroyed when opening. If you fill and paint modified wooden skirting, the skirting is destroyed in gaining access. I suppose real wood with brass screws could look okay and be removable, but the damage then done to modify wiring behind it defeats the idea. Running up on the surface is impractical with multiple compartments.

This stuff may survive the removal of the cover with care: https://www.rockwellbuildingplastics.co.uk/products/mdf-skirting-trunking-65mm-x-24m-white.html

Surface runs out of that would be gopping. It's just barely big enough for some T&E.

Majorbob:

--- Quote from: Monkeh on February 13, 2021, 06:33:00 am ---
--- Quote from: Majorbob on February 13, 2021, 06:26:23 am ---Aesthetics will come later when I've determined the viability.  My goal at this stage is to gain an understanding of why it seems such an unpopular idea and whether it's worth continuing with.
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Specifically burying it in the wall behind skirting is not acceptable for the reason I gave. Putting it in the skirting is unpopular because it's ugly.


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I understand the burying it in the wall point, plus if you're going to bury it in the wall, you might as well do it at the same level as your sockets.


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--- Quote ---Deep skirting with enough material to make space for T&E is available, and skirting can easily be high enough to have seperate channels for data/power/TV etc.

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Products are specifically available for this purpose. They're ugly, and if you paint them the paint is destroyed when opening. If you fill and paint modified wooden skirting, the skirting is destroyed in gaining access. I suppose real wood with brass screws could look okay and be removable, but the damage then done to modify wiring behind it defeats the idea. Running up on the surface is impractical with multiple compartments.

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Yes, I have seen the kind of ugly PVC skirtings with multiple compartments.  I have also seen skirting with routed channels, but you make a good point with its removal.

You make some good reasons against the idea and have given me good thinking food, thankyou.

Majorbob:

--- Quote ---This stuff may survive the removal of the cover with care: https://www.rockwellbuildingplastics.co.uk/products/mdf-skirting-trunking-65mm-x-24m-white.html

Surface runs out of that would be gopping. It's just barely big enough for some T&E.

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I've seen the rockwell stuff before and decided it'll be too ugly/too much hassle.  You'll get T&E along it but you'll struggle getting it round a bend or out again!

james_s:

--- Quote from: Majorbob on February 13, 2021, 06:02:11 am ---But surely if you are fixing the skirting with nails or screws then you should be aware that the wiring is there?

For a reference to all of you who are outside of the UK this is a picture showing the "permitted wiring zones".
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What about the next person who lives in the house? Most houses go through multiple owners, and many people will expect things to be done according to code. Again, if the electrical code forbids running the wires where you want to run them, it doesn't matter why it's forbidden beyond curiosity, you can't do it in a way that is not compliant to code. If you are doing something as major as rewiring the house I would hope that you're going to get it properly permitted and inspected. This is a much more major undertaking than adding a socket or a light somewhere.

gnuarm:

--- Quote from: Majorbob on February 13, 2021, 06:11:27 am ---Sorry, I don't grasp that, not if what has been covered over?

The skirting will be recessed at the back to allow wires to travel safely between it and the wall, and vertical holes will be made where required to feed sockets mounted directly above the skirting.

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"English is the common language that divides our countries."

I think my idea of skirting is not like yours.  Perhaps you can explain what that is. 

In the US wires are either behind the drywall or are in a metal conduit or raceway on the surface.  Wires are not run within layers of drywall (sheet rock) or paneling (looks like wood but rather thin). 

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