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So, what you (UK) guys think? Exit or not to exit?

YES, please get me out of there (I'm UK) [go]
41 (19.5%)
Hell no, we are one big (happy) family! (I'm UK) [stay]
42 (20%)
OMG, let them Go! [go]
63 (30%)
I love the UK, they are family! [stay]
64 (30.5%)

Total Members Voted: 208

Voting closed: July 10, 2016, 10:29:34 am

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Offline continuo

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Re: UK forum members, BREXIT?
« Reply #625 on: June 23, 2016, 07:33:15 am »
Well, Ladies and Gentlemen, today is the day, the polling stations are open, pick your choice, make your decision... And let it be a wise one...


 

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Re: UK forum members, BREXIT?
« Reply #626 on: June 23, 2016, 07:36:58 am »
This referendum is advisory only, not really binding right?
Drain the swamp.
 

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Re: UK forum members, BREXIT?
« Reply #627 on: June 23, 2016, 07:54:32 am »
This referendum is advisory only, not really binding right?

Right. It's just a suggestion :)
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Re: UK forum members, BREXIT?
« Reply #628 on: June 23, 2016, 08:19:29 am »
This referendum is advisory only, not really binding right?

Right. It's just a suggestion :)
Depends who you believe
 

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Re: UK forum members, BREXIT?
« Reply #629 on: June 23, 2016, 08:27:30 am »
What if it is 50/50 or close to that, probably nothing will happen?  :-//
 

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Re: UK forum members, BREXIT?
« Reply #630 on: June 23, 2016, 08:35:17 am »
I believe a simple majority is all that's required one way or the other. We just have to hope that an odd number of people turn out to vote!

Speaking of which... back soon  8)

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   If three 100  Ohm resistors are connected in parallel, and in series with a 200 Ohm resistor, how many resistors do you have? 
 

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Re: UK forum members, BREXIT?
« Reply #632 on: June 23, 2016, 09:20:37 am »
There is no way under the British constitution to make a referendum legally binding, as Parliament, being sovereign, can always reverse its previous decision.   That said, if there was a big majority one way it would be politically impossible to ignore it, at least without another referendum.
 

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Re: UK forum members, BREXIT?
« Reply #633 on: June 23, 2016, 09:23:41 am »
That said, if there was a big majority one way it would be politically impossible to ignore it
not impossible but it will probably be political suicide.  ;)
 

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Re: UK forum members, BREXIT?
« Reply #634 on: June 23, 2016, 09:33:07 am »
Been and voted!
 

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Re: UK forum members, BREXIT?
« Reply #635 on: June 23, 2016, 09:49:14 am »
Been and voted!
+1, only 46,499,535 votes to go :)
 

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Re: UK forum members, BREXIT?
« Reply #636 on: June 23, 2016, 10:25:57 am »
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I haven't found one place/reference that claims it's legaly binding.
It's not legally binding... that said it might not be a great idea to not comply with legally gained explicit will of a majority of your population.
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Re: UK forum members, BREXIT?
« Reply #637 on: June 23, 2016, 10:32:53 am »
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I haven't found one place/reference that claims it's legaly binding.
It's not legally binding... that said it might not be a great idea to not comply with legally gained explicit will of a majority of your population.

Indeed!!!
 

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Re: UK forum members, BREXIT?
« Reply #638 on: June 23, 2016, 10:47:22 am »
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I haven't found one place/reference that claims it's legaly binding.
It's not legally binding... that said it might not be a great idea to not comply with legally gained explicit will of a majority of your population.

Indeed!!!

Hence the S.O.P. of holding repeated referenda until you get the result you want!
 

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Re: UK forum members, BREXIT?
« Reply #639 on: June 23, 2016, 11:42:15 am »
Why? We're all going to stay befriended nations, whatever the outcome. Everyone will do their best to make the situation after the vote work.
Of course. Import and export will go on like before. Will be transported and payed as before.
Some politicians and their bureaucracy of the +7 levels above me will have to adapt somewhat, quickly write some notes, and redefine some priorities.
No big changes are to be expected.

Pretty much everyone in the Remain camp has admitted that reform of the current EU is necessary.
Like 5,10,15 and 20 years ago. Voting for change/reform will give change/reform. But what change/reform?
If remain wins (let's say with 52%), they will get reform. A whole bunch of unreadable documents that makes referenda de-facto impossible.

What if it is 50/50 or close to that, probably nothing will happen?  :-//
It will be. The result will be within the fault margin that "counting votes" always has.
I also would prefer a referendum with a very easy entrance exam, to keep the 10% complete idiots of both sides out.

I haven't found one place/reference that claims it's legaly binding.
So they still can get out, even if 55% votes remain :-)
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Re: UK forum members, BREXIT?
« Reply #640 on: June 23, 2016, 02:00:17 pm »
That said, if there was a big majority one way it would be politically impossible to ignore it
not impossible but it will probably be political suicide.  ;)
I doubt it. The public's memory is short so they just wait and delay. Remember the referendum about Ukrain in the NL? I strongly doubt our parliament will honor the outcome.
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Re: UK forum members, BREXIT?
« Reply #641 on: June 23, 2016, 02:15:59 pm »
This thread's poll on the day of voting, for reference: 41/41/61/58
 

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Re: UK forum members, BREXIT?
« Reply #642 on: June 23, 2016, 02:49:18 pm »
Drain the swamp.
 

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Re: UK forum members, BREXIT?
« Reply #643 on: June 23, 2016, 04:48:19 pm »
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But Spain have collapsed, Barcelona wants out of Spain. ;)

The  zone metropolitan of Barcelona don't want out the Spain neither Tarragona that the zone more industrializing from this region(aproximately 5 Millions from 7Millions)   while the Deep Catalonia  or hicks are who wants out the Spain

And this region had a President very very stupid as Cameron that liked referendums and elections every two years(4 times on less 6 years). He have destroyed his coalition ,sank two traditionals parties(CDC and Unio) and a anti-system party(CUP) .

The consequence for Catalonia a uncontable debt(aproximately 700M €) .they don't pay to the pharmaceuticals corporations,hospitas etc .And Spain have to borrow money to EU for paying the catalonia debts.

While they go opening  Catalonia ambassadorship with a cost 1M€ for month with the money from catalonia kidnapped,the spanish and all the  European countries ,inclusive the british.



 

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Re: UK forum members, BREXIT?
« Reply #644 on: June 23, 2016, 05:05:11 pm »
A new EU proposal calls for taxing automation:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-robotics-lawmaking-idUSKCN0Z72AY

Oh, bloody marvellous. Please, someone show these people around a factory before they start trying to decide that a "robot" is a new thing that can be taxed and regulated.

It'll be like a biologist trying to define what is alive and what isn't. Is a CNC mill a robot? Or a pick & place machine? Or does it have to have red glowing eyes and demand your clothes, your boots and your motorcycle?

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Re: UK forum members, BREXIT?
« Reply #645 on: June 23, 2016, 05:41:13 pm »
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A new EU proposal calls for taxing automation:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-robotics-lawmaking-idUSKCN0Z72AY

I doubt that they put this tax because euro-parlaments have to face with the german industrials lobbies and if the euro-parlament put  fools ,the lobbies have mechanism for changing their intention.

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Re: UK forum members, BREXIT?
« Reply #646 on: June 23, 2016, 07:12:45 pm »
A new EU proposal calls for taxing automation:

An intelligent robot does not necessarily require a human form to be considered a person,
by that reasoning we should therefore expect a robot cat tax.




 

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Re: UK forum members, BREXIT?
« Reply #647 on: June 23, 2016, 07:40:45 pm »
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An intelligent robot does not necessarily require a human form to be considered a person,
by that reasoning we should therefore expect a robot cat tax.


So , we shall have a tax for all types the robot , since cook robot , warehouse robot until the  military robot as the  systems anti-aircarft and the reload  systems.
 
it hasn't any  sense and it would be very difficult for applying
 

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Re: UK forum members, BREXIT?
« Reply #648 on: June 23, 2016, 07:57:35 pm »
Any guesstimates when the preliminary results will be in? if both sides are about 50% I'm guessing it can take all night?

A new EU proposal calls for taxing automation:
"proposal" being the operative word...
 

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Re: UK forum members, BREXIT?
« Reply #649 on: June 23, 2016, 09:10:47 pm »
About 5 or 6 minutes after the polls (real) have CLOSED in the UK, I took the results here:

tl;dr
Almost EXACTLY neck and neck.
 


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