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UK internet censoring
Zero999:
--- Quote from: coppice on July 13, 2023, 07:00:02 pm ---
--- Quote from: Zero999 on July 13, 2023, 05:52:46 pm ---I've noticed a recent trend of people reading too much in to one's choice of words, rather than their context. I find it infuriating, that just because a word can be used as a slur, it's seen as bad, even when it's not used in the pejorative. :palm:
Anyway, back on topic. Wikipedia does have a bias, but that doesn't mean it should be illegal. Other sources have biases i.e. GBNews and the Guardian, but that doesn't mean they should be banned.
This law is nothing to do with child protection. It's supposed to help to shield everyone from hate and misinformation, which is just an excuse to gain consent. People will agree to all sorts of evil things, if they've been persuaded it's for the common good: i.e. saving lives and protecting children. Ronald Reagan was right: "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the Government, and I'm here to help."
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It doesn't gain consent. It attempts to make consent irrelevant. Talk to people who have lived through regimes which turned their propaganda up to 11, and they all say roughly the same thing. They were not sure what the truth was, but they knew full well it wasn't what they were being told.
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I definitely agree about not being sure of what the truth is. I get that feeling about many topics discussed by the mainstream media. That doesn't change the fact that propaganda can garner support for some pretty extreme policies, such as those implemented in the Third Reich.
coppice:
--- Quote from: Zero999 on July 14, 2023, 08:53:57 pm ---
--- Quote from: coppice on July 13, 2023, 07:00:02 pm ---
--- Quote from: Zero999 on July 13, 2023, 05:52:46 pm ---I've noticed a recent trend of people reading too much in to one's choice of words, rather than their context. I find it infuriating, that just because a word can be used as a slur, it's seen as bad, even when it's not used in the pejorative. :palm:
Anyway, back on topic. Wikipedia does have a bias, but that doesn't mean it should be illegal. Other sources have biases i.e. GBNews and the Guardian, but that doesn't mean they should be banned.
This law is nothing to do with child protection. It's supposed to help to shield everyone from hate and misinformation, which is just an excuse to gain consent. People will agree to all sorts of evil things, if they've been persuaded it's for the common good: i.e. saving lives and protecting children. Ronald Reagan was right: "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the Government, and I'm here to help."
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It doesn't gain consent. It attempts to make consent irrelevant. Talk to people who have lived through regimes which turned their propaganda up to 11, and they all say roughly the same thing. They were not sure what the truth was, but they knew full well it wasn't what they were being told.
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I definitely agree about not being sure of what the truth is. I get that feeling about many topics discussed by the mainstream media. That doesn't change the fact that propaganda can garner support for some pretty extreme policies, such as those implemented in the Third Reich.
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The Third Reich got support because the alternatives appeared worse. Once it got that support a huge number clearly had an "oh shit" moment when they realised what they had freely voted for. With a booming economy it took quite a while for that moment to occur for many people. For a long time they had achieved the end to chaos they had voted for.
tggzzz:
--- Quote from: coppice on July 14, 2023, 08:59:12 pm ---The Third Reich got support because the alternatives appeared worse. Once it got that support a huge number clearly had an "oh shit" moment when they realised what they had freely voted for. With a booming economy it took quite a while for that moment to occur for many people. For a long time they had achieved the end to chaos they had voted for.
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Compare and contrast with the Brexit vote. :(
History doesn't repeat, but it rhymes.
TimFox:
History has no subjunctive mood. (Russian proverb)
Zero999:
--- Quote from: tggzzz on July 14, 2023, 09:07:01 pm ---
--- Quote from: coppice on July 14, 2023, 08:59:12 pm ---The Third Reich got support because the alternatives appeared worse. Once it got that support a huge number clearly had an "oh shit" moment when they realised what they had freely voted for. With a booming economy it took quite a while for that moment to occur for many people. For a long time they had achieved the end to chaos they had voted for.
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Compare and contrast with the Brexit vote. :(
History doesn't repeat, but it rhymes.
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Brexit is nothing but a small cut, compared to the huge injury of lockdown and mass immigration, which would have happened anyway.
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