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Someone:

--- Quote from: tggzzz on July 09, 2023, 10:10:25 am ---
--- Quote from: Someone on July 09, 2023, 09:57:29 am ---Might as well start banning books that might cause damage if they end up in the hands of children.
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Books have to be actively chosen by the reader (or teacher). With (un)social media the platform chooses what the reader sees based on opaque criteria designed to hook the reader into passively consuming more of the platform's product.
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Social media is like newspapers of old, they contain a vast array of topics and content, not all suitable for children. Wikipedia being a different example of broad content pitched at all sorts of audiences, descending from encyclopaedias (which came in children's versions). If parents dont like their children having access to the broader content, then those children can be restricted/blocked/diverted away from that platform/site rather than adding barriers for everyone.

People choose to visit any specific website just as they choose to pick any specific book.
tggzzz:

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--- Quote from: tggzzz on July 09, 2023, 10:10:25 am ---
--- Quote from: Someone on July 09, 2023, 09:57:29 am ---Might as well start banning books that might cause damage if they end up in the hands of children.
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Books have to be actively chosen by the reader (or teacher). With (un)social media the platform chooses what the reader sees based on opaque criteria designed to hook the reader into passively consuming more of the platform's product.
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Social media is like newspapers of old, they contain a vast array of topics and content, not all suitable for children.

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I reiterate my point about active choices vs passive consumption of whatever somebody is paying to push.


--- Quote ---Wikipedia being a different example of broad content pitched at all sorts of audiences, descending from encyclopaedias (which came in children's versions). If parents dont like their children having access to the broader content, then those children can be restricted/blocked/diverted away from that platform/site rather than adding barriers for everyone.

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How, exactly?

I suspect you don't have children, because if you did you would realise how inventively devious they can be. (I encouraged that in my daughter, and it has paid off :))


--- Quote ---People choose to visit any specific website just as they choose to pick any specific book.

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Unlike books, all (un)social media websites change on-the-fly what the reader sees based on who is paying them them most to rent the readers' eyeballs and brains.

N.B. my reply #1 in this thread https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/uk-internet-censoring/msg4948498/#msg4948498
"Send an email to your MP, highlighting the key points.
I have."
voltsandjolts:

--- Quote from: Someone on July 09, 2023, 09:57:29 am ---you equate universal moderation/control with a net win for society based on... nothing? Emotive nonsense.

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Based on the fact we have a fairly functional society which uses the law ("Universal moderation/control" as you call it) to restrict the actions of all for the benefit of all. Perhaps some form of internet restriction is one more law than you can stand. But my suggestion above would not impact anyone other than parents and their children. Put a legal requirement in place for parents to provide only filtered internet access for their children. At least it would get parents talking about it, even if it was completey unenforcable.


--- Quote ---There is no problem for adults, with many resources and solutions already existing for those who want their children to access the internet within a safe boundary why are they pushing that onto everyone else?

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I agree with you on that. If enough parents did this, new laws wouldn't be needed. Why are they not doing it? Technical incompetance, cost, or just don't care. I do know parents who only allow net access in a shared room of their house (corridor or living room), to have some oversight, but were unaware of commercial filtered internet options.



--- Quote from: tggzzz on July 09, 2023, 10:10:25 am ---Having said that, this whole argument is very similar to the old debates about pornography

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At least in the old days, it was literally out of reach, ...at least for the shorter kids!

rdl:
There are a number of States here in the U.S. that have passed laws requiring some kind of age validation to access porn sites and other bad places on the internet. I live in one of them. I have not checked to see how this is supposed to work. I read that at least one large site is geo-blocking access completely. I suspect that the sellers of VPN services are happy.
TimFox:
Adapted from the Wikipedia article:
The First Edition of the Encyclopædia Britannica (1768–1771, in three volumes) featured 160 copperplate illustrations.
Some illustrations were shocking, such as the three pages depicting female pelvises and fetuses in the midwifery article; King George III commanded that these pages be ripped from every copy.
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