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UK power grid situation!!
Someone:
--- Quote from: themadhippy on December 06, 2022, 03:11:20 am ---
--- Quote ---Most of these renewables provide intermittent power, meaning they generate electricity when the wind is blowing or the sun is shining
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so something which stores the energy when available would be ideal,like the box of bricks currently heating this place.thankfully there not lot 20 compliant.
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Sure sounds like you're one of the usual complainers that needs batting down.... being that lot 20 does not change existing installs, restricts the market for new installs, and there are new storage heaters on the market with LOT20 compliance.
So, still wanting to dream of the past?
eti:
--- Quote from: Someone on December 06, 2022, 03:53:21 am ---
--- Quote from: themadhippy on December 06, 2022, 03:11:20 am ---
--- Quote ---Most of these renewables provide intermittent power, meaning they generate electricity when the wind is blowing or the sun is shining
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so something which stores the energy when available would be ideal,like the box of bricks currently heating this place.thankfully there not lot 20 compliant.
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Sure sounds like you're one of the usual complainers that needs batting down.... being that lot 20 does not change existing installs, restricts the market for new installs, and there are new storage heaters on the market with LOT20 compliance.
So, still wanting to dream of the past?
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I wonder how supercilious and condescending you’d be if you met them in person and they were 6’9” and built like a Russian wrestler?
Internet bravado doesn’t work IRL. Being a man includes not talking down to people.
AVGresponding:
--- Quote from: eti on December 06, 2022, 03:58:53 am ---Internet bravado doesn’t work IRL. Being a man includes not talking down to people.
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Then why do you do it all the time?
tom66:
--- Quote from: james_s on December 06, 2022, 01:21:05 am ---
--- Quote from: Zero999 on December 05, 2022, 09:57:45 pm ---We need more nuclear.
Storage is a big problem for renewables and there are currently no solutions for the UK.
Heat pumps aren't much of an issue, if they're firstly just uses to replace resistive heating, as that would result in a net reduction in power draw. It might be more of a problem, if everyone had one though.
EVs aren't a problem now, but the grid needs to be expanded for the time when everyone has them. It's true their batteries could be used as storage, but a lot of people wouldn't like the idea of their car's battery being used as a free grid buffer.
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Is there a significant amount of electric resistance heating in the UK still? It's still common in apartmens in the US and there are still older houses around that have it but at least in this region natural gas is more common and heat pumps are rapidly gaining. Given the much higher cost of energy over there I'd have thought resistance heat was largely a thing of the past.
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Around 7% of all properties are electric resistive heated, but in some areas it's 25%, like the Welsh countryside and Scottish highlands. Parts are rural enough that delivery of oil on a truck to homes is expensive, and there's no piped gas, so electric heating is all you have left. Some others get heated by tanks of propane which get delivered and exchanged before the winter season.
richard.cs:
--- Quote from: tom66 on December 05, 2022, 09:47:23 pm ---The problem is that we have had two nuclear reactors go down for refueling but at the same time a steam leak reported on Heysham 2 NPP, at a time when energy demand is ramping up because of the colder temperatures and events like the football.
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And the permanent shutdown of more AGRs (Hunterston B and Hinkley Point B) this year, which could have been extended 18 months but UKGov declined to fund the safety work. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/may/01/hinkley-point-b-nuclear-plant-could-be-spared-imminent-closure
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