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tom66:

--- Quote from: Someone on December 07, 2022, 01:48:17 am ---Talking about resistive heating (off peak electricity heating into bricks), how can consuming more power result in less heating ? ? ? all the energy ends up as heat with almost perfect unity.

or more accurately if you come back and say that there is no impediment to buying another storage heater, then what on earth were you saying originally (quoted above) ? What is better about the old heaters that you cannot buy? Resistive heating dump into a brick is pretty much impossible to screw up.

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Just a typical conspiracy theorist, has to hate something new that the EU/government introduced because that's automatically wrong. 

Pay them no mind. 


mikerj:

--- Quote from: tom66 on December 05, 2022, 09:47:23 pm ---Renewable energy being intermittent isn't really a problem if you have grid scale storage

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But we don't...

tom66:

--- Quote from: mikerj on December 07, 2022, 01:59:16 pm ---But we don't...

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Good news, we also don't have a grid that's entirely dependent upon renewable energy either.

themadhippy:

--- Quote ---Just a typical conspiracy theorist, has to hate something new that the EU/government introduced because that's automatically wrong. 
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Or maybe somebody who has spent time testing a site were tenants complained about  an increase in electricity use after there flats were rewired and the old heaters changed for new.
For a start there not a direct replacement as they require a permanent supply along with the existing timed supply.The older heaters didn't have a constant power draw ,just in case you want to see the room temperature by an app on your phone,consuming several watts  even thought the heater isn't doing anything apart from showing the time and temperature on its display,from memory it was about 1kw/h every 2 weeks. On the particular model was a "safety feature" which ,if the temperature fell below a non  adjustable level,would turn on the heater,both pointless as it also had a  frost stat option,and  a bit of surprise come bill time,Turning off the permanent supply to get rid of these "features" also turns off the economy 7

tom66:
None of those functions are required by Lot20 though, it's just about including a mandatory timer.  If the manufacturer of the heater puts a crap timer and extra frost-stat in then... well, don't use that particular model!  That's nothing to do with the EU, and I bet the residents would be far more upset by leaving the heater on for longer than a few watts in a digital controller.  A simple electronic timer meets the requirements of Lot20, no requirement exists for the frost stat etc.

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