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UK power grid situation!!
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james_s:

--- Quote from: NiHaoMike on December 09, 2022, 01:07:47 pm ---How about give discounts to customers who get devices installed to limit heating to 60-65F during peak times?

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How do you enforce that? It's trivial to bypass a thermostat to turn on the heating, and if you don't want to mess with that, just plug in a space heater.
Monkeh:

--- Quote from: james_s on December 09, 2022, 06:27:58 pm ---
--- Quote from: NiHaoMike on December 09, 2022, 01:07:47 pm ---How about give discounts to customers who get devices installed to limit heating to 60-65F during peak times?

--- End quote ---

How do you enforce that? It's trivial to bypass a thermostat to turn on the heating, and if you don't want to mess with that, just plug in a space heater.

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Smart meters.

Also, most people are not smart enough for 'trivial'.
Kasper:

--- Quote from: Monkeh on December 09, 2022, 06:41:37 pm ---
--- Quote from: james_s on December 09, 2022, 06:27:58 pm ---
--- Quote from: NiHaoMike on December 09, 2022, 01:07:47 pm ---How about give discounts to customers who get devices installed to limit heating to 60-65F during peak times?

--- End quote ---

How do you enforce that? It's trivial to bypass a thermostat to turn on the heating, and if you don't want to mess with that, just plug in a space heater.

--- End quote ---

Smart meters.

Also, most people are not smart enough for 'trivial'.

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What if someone likes leaving the windows open but keeps the thermostat at 18°C?  Should they get a discount?  What if most the house is 16°C but your office is 20°C, does that qualify?  What about people that upgrade their insulation?

Pay per use billing seems a lot easier and more fair.  Use less energy, get a lower energy bill. 
Kasper:
Missed the part about peak times but again, billing schemes could drive that with much less bureaucracy and more fairness.
themadhippy:
The uk has a new method of cutting down on grid demand,pricing the poor out of the market.
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