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| TheBay:
Every year they "Attempt to Ban" halogen and also incandescent bulbs but yet I can always find them for sale. I've got a Lutron lighting system that will only play nicely with certain dimmable LED bulbs and I have no idea if they will work or not without buying them and trying them. I really do not want to rip that system out as it works so well. Why is it 90% of LED bulbs are "Warm" colour temperature, they are a lot warmer than a halogen or traditional incandescent bulbs and look disgusting IMHO. Not to mention the CRI on the box being complete nonsense. I bought some Philips 4000K LED bulbs a while back and have been really impressed but they seem to be discontinued sadly. They have a really high CRI and are a decent replacement. |
| james_s:
--- Quote from: themadhippy on June 09, 2021, 02:05:27 pm --- --- Quote ---I'm sure incandescent bulbs will be available for a long time still... --- End quote --- Theirs a nice little loop hole in the legislation so good ole incandescent lamps can still be found by using the magic phrases "rough service" One thing they have also mumbled about,but doesn't seem to be widely reported is the banning of light fittings with non replaceable lamps,that's going to be interesting considering the uk building regs for meeting energy efficiency either require non replaceable lamps or use of a lamp base that's incompatible with non energy efficient lamps,are we going to see a sudden increase of incompatibility between manufacturers? --- End quote --- The ironic thing about that is "rough service" applications like the work light I use while working on cars are one of the first things I switched to LED. Even incandescent lamps marketed as rough service are nowhere near as tough as an LED bulb. Personally I dislike bans, I would rather see a tax on less efficient sources used to fund development of more efficient sources. Just gently nudge people toward higher efficiency while greasing the path. |
| james_s:
--- Quote from: TheBay on June 09, 2021, 06:59:02 pm ---Why is it 90% of LED bulbs are "Warm" colour temperature, they are a lot warmer than a halogen or traditional incandescent bulbs and look disgusting IMHO. Not to mention the CRI on the box being complete nonsense. --- End quote --- Because standard incandescent lamps are 2700k and that is what most people are used to so most LED bulbs are also 2700k. A major goal in developing the bulbs in the first place was to make them look as much like what they were trying to replace as possible so ordinary people would buy them. Personally I've started using quite a few tuneable CCT smart bulbs. I don't really care about the overall "smart" features but I love being able to dial in the color temperature. The Philips Hue white ambiance series are less than half the price of the full RGB bulbs and offer a very nice range from about 2200k to 6500k. |
| coppice:
--- Quote from: TheBay on June 09, 2021, 06:59:02 pm ---Why is it 90% of LED bulbs are "Warm" colour temperature, they are a lot warmer than a halogen or traditional incandescent bulbs and look disgusting IMHO. --- End quote --- Where we live most shops have bigger stocks of daylight bulbs than warm white ones. Whether that is because they sell more daylight ones, or because the warm ones sell out fastest I don't know. |
| rdl:
I agree that the so-called "warm white" looks horrible. The last time I looked best I could find was 3000k but that's only a minimal improvement. Today I looked on Amazon and there are plenty of 4000k available. You can even get CRI 90+ (so they say). I'm probably going to order some tonight. |
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