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Re: Sad day for Norway
« Reply #50 on: July 30, 2011, 12:46:18 am »
I have stop worrying for my public image from the start of my life .
All that I care, is to say the truth about how I feel, and afterwords to have an peaceful night sleep.
If you follow this path, you will have very few friends, but those they will be better than brothers to you.
Yeah... If you want Liberty, you can't ask for it, you'll have to take it.

Yes I am trained to take it.
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Re: Sad day for Norway
« Reply #51 on: July 30, 2011, 10:14:07 pm »
but criticizing my own government for their psychopathic war against Libya, and blaming the same institution, but not the muslims, for all the immigration problems, obviously makes me very ''dangerous''.
Not at all. There is plenty to criticise in most national governments. What is dangerous is the suggestion that individuals are powerless and that unrest or violent acts are the only solution. There is always some nut-job out there that takes such talk seriously. There are more ways to hold governments to account than lobbing missiles up public streets.


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I totally agree, but I strongly doubt this guy is a real Rightie. It makes no sense killing people from the political ''left'' and then expect sympathy for the political ''right'' (We have no real Left and Right here in Norway. They're all commies basically).
The guy isn't anything but another loser, a misfit and a waste of oxygen. What I've had issue with in this discussion is any suggestion that their are valid reason for this creep holding the twisted opinions he does.
 

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Re: Sad day for Norway
« Reply #52 on: August 07, 2011, 07:38:57 am »
if you assholes don't understand what i am saying, it is because you do not want to.

seriously i am making a very simple point:
'understanding will yield better results then blind judgment'
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If only! But damn right everyone should be making an effort towards tolerance.

how the hell do you attempt to achieve that wile indulging in ignorance?

seriously, what is the weather like up your own ass?

its very simple people: these people are not sick alone, WE ARE ALL SICK TOGETHER!

don't you get it? this is a SYSTEMIC PROBLEM that pervades throughout our entire society!
what you are seeing with these spree killings are merely the symptoms.

what i am saying is simply this:
we can pretend to understand the symptoms, but if we continue to refuse to
knowledge the systemic problem causing these symptoms, we cannot expect anything
other then those symptoms getting worse and worse.

ignorance is the problem, not the solution!

while were on the subject:
why are you so hellbent on trivializing the perpetrator anyways?
does it have something to do with an unwillingness to acknowledge our own individual
responsibility towards the society we created together?

WE; all of us together, are creating this mess!
putting all the blame on some retarded guy who himself doesn't even understand why he does
what he does, is beyond stupid and extremely gutless and selfish.

u can keep calling the guy crazy, but understand that the word 'crazy' does not explain anything whatsoever.
all it does is form an excuse for denial.

let me put it in yet another way:
calling this guy crazy and pretending that that is all there is to know is
pretty much synonymous with saying 'it happened for no reason'.

i though you people were supposed to be intelligent?

"there is no greater crime then to indulge in ignorance"
-chinese proverb.

"the cause of all insanity is our own unwillingness to experience legitimate suffering"
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Re: Sad day for Norway
« Reply #53 on: August 07, 2011, 08:33:03 am »
"you guys are a bunch of dicks"
swinging dicks.... :D you having a bad day?
Nature: Evolution and the Illusion of Randomness (Stephen L. Talbott): Its now indisputable that... organisms “expertise” contextualizes its genome, and its nonsense to say that these powers are under the control of the genome being contextualized - Barbara McClintock
 

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Re: Sad day for Norway
« Reply #54 on: August 07, 2011, 11:40:50 am »
if you assholes don't understand what i am saying
Then perhaps it is you that is out of step.

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seriously, what is the weather like up your own ass?
Yes it sure is you that has issues with producing a rational argument. Your use of abuse language simply amplifying your inability to present a rational and coherent point of view.

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its very simple people: these people are not sick alone,
I can put forward a point of view and can be heard without having to resort to violence. Hell if I can anyone can. Of course they would have to want to first.


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WE ARE ALL SICK TOGETHER!
You can leave me and the rational majority who condemn such violence out of your WE. We do not subscribe to your point of view.

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don't you get it?
We get it! Not so sure you do.

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this is a SYSTEMIC PROBLEM that pervades throughout our entire society!
yeah mass murder is an everyday occurrence at every shopping mall and public venue. 

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what you are seeing with these spree killings are merely the symptoms.
No what I am seeing is the result of yet another inadequate sicko who hasn't really thought things through, and who chooses to blame others for his own social ineptitude.

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why are you so hellbent on trivializing the perpetrator anyways?
because he is just another inadequate nobody who deserves little attention  (or oxygen). A creature so pathetic that he has to resort to madness for his 10 seconds of not infany.

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does it have something to do with an unwillingness to acknowledge our own individual
responsibility towards the society we created together?
Your logic or lack of it beggars belief! What has anyone else's responsibility have to do with the twisted actions of a madman. Should all policy be rearranged to suit the delusion this and every other sick coward?

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WE; all of us together, are creating this mess!
Bulldust! This sicko has responsibility for his own actions, if he cannot determine truth from madness then that's hardly my responsibility.

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putting all the blame on some retarded guy who himself doesn't even understand why he does
what he does, is beyond stupid and extremely gutless and selfish.
Who pulled the trigger? Damn right he deserves the blame! His actions, his responsibility.

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u can keep calling the guy crazy, but understand that the word 'crazy' does not explain anything whatsoever.
all it does is form an excuse for denial.
Better than your alternative which is trying to suggest there is a rational reason for such acts of madness. There isn't never was, never will be.

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let me put it in yet another way:
If you must.

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calling this guy crazy and
He is crazy! His act's were crazy! His rational flawed twisted an irrational. The though anyone would want to defend such an animal is crazier still.

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pretending that that is all there is to know is
pretty much synonymous with saying 'it happened for no reason'.
There is no reason. Never was, never will be. Act's of madness will never have any good reason.

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i though you people were supposed to be intelligent?
Then you should have realised we would take a rational approach. To even suggest there could be any sort of reason is an insult to many grieving friends and relatives of his innocent victims.

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"you guys are a bunch of dicks"
Bye then. Close the door on your way out, thanks.
 


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