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| SilverSolder:
--- Quote from: DrG on April 25, 2021, 03:44:49 pm ---From: Kangjie Lu <kjlu@umn.edu> To: open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org> Cc: Qiushi Wu <wu000273@umn.edu>, Aditya Pakki <pakki001@umn.edu> Subject: An open letter to the Linux community Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2021 17:30:50 -0500 An apology, posted yesterday....https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAK8KejpUVLxmqp026JY7x5GzHU2YJLPU8SzTZUNXU2OXC70ZQQ@mail.gmail.com/ --- End quote --- @Dr. G, if you were to post that you had been mugged yesterday, you would get one or two comments defending the mugger... on the Internet, there is always someone taking the opposite view, that's how debate works! :D |
| ataradov:
--- Quote from: bd139 on April 25, 2021, 08:30:13 am ---This has exposed a huge vulnerability in the process which was an extremely valuable activity. --- End quote --- It exposed absolutely nothing. We do this experiment every single day. Commits with issues that have to be reverted appear in the kernel all the time. So it it obvious you can get one though intentionally. If anything, you can call it a conversation starter. But it is like starting a conversation on how to feeds kids in Africa. There are no practical short term solutions, so the whole effort is pointless. Also, why kernel? Go bother Apache people, for example. There are a ton of projects that are susceptible to the same exact issue. Or go further, and show that not only OSS is susceptible, figure out a way to infiltrate a closed source company. They did absolute minimal and lamest amount of work. And then blown it up to the article size. This is now a lot of modern "research" goes. |
| ataradov:
--- Quote from: DrG on April 25, 2021, 03:44:49 pm ---An apology, posted yesterday.... --- End quote --- As I said, in the spirit of that apology, they should not benefit from the article. So remove it from the IEEE conference. As of now, they are saying they are sorry, yet going forward with all if their plans. |
| DrG:
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on April 25, 2021, 04:41:46 pm --- --- Quote from: DrG on April 25, 2021, 03:44:49 pm ---From: Kangjie Lu <kjlu@umn.edu> To: open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org> Cc: Qiushi Wu <wu000273@umn.edu>, Aditya Pakki <pakki001@umn.edu> Subject: An open letter to the Linux community Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2021 17:30:50 -0500 An apology, posted yesterday....https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAK8KejpUVLxmqp026JY7x5GzHU2YJLPU8SzTZUNXU2OXC70ZQQ@mail.gmail.com/ --- End quote --- @Dr. G, if you were to post that you had been mugged yesterday, you would get one or two comments defending the mugger... --- End quote --- Nahh, if I posted that I got mugged, I would probably get a ton of "likes" ;) More seriously, I admit that I am fascinated by the dynamics of these situations....I try to come up with the principles in play as they unfold. We see the dynamics almost everyday in the media...someone screws up...they apologize...does it stick or do they get cancelled? IMO, this fellow is throwing himself at the mercy of the court, so to speak. It is one step in the process....does he get cancelled or does this blow over and he can continue, hopefully, smarter and more humble? In my view, Community Opinion, much like Reality itself, can be a harsh mistress and one should not try to f**k with either. |
| SilverSolder:
--- Quote from: DrG on April 25, 2021, 05:08:52 pm --- --- Quote from: SilverSolder on April 25, 2021, 04:41:46 pm --- --- Quote from: DrG on April 25, 2021, 03:44:49 pm ---From: Kangjie Lu <kjlu@umn.edu> To: open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org> Cc: Qiushi Wu <wu000273@umn.edu>, Aditya Pakki <pakki001@umn.edu> Subject: An open letter to the Linux community Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2021 17:30:50 -0500 An apology, posted yesterday....https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAK8KejpUVLxmqp026JY7x5GzHU2YJLPU8SzTZUNXU2OXC70ZQQ@mail.gmail.com/ --- End quote --- @Dr. G, if you were to post that you had been mugged yesterday, you would get one or two comments defending the mugger... --- End quote --- Nahh, if I posted that I got mugged, I would probably get a ton of "likes" ;) More seriously, I admit that I am fascinated by the dynamics of these situations....I try to come up with the principles in play as they unfold. We see the dynamics almost everyday in the media...someone screws up...they apologize...does it stick or do they get cancelled? IMO, this fellow is throwing himself at the mercy of the court, so to speak. It is one step in the process....does he get cancelled or does this blow over and he can continue, hopefully, smarter and more humble? In my view, Community Opinion, much like Reality itself, can be a harsh mistress and one should not try to f**k with either. --- End quote --- I think the algorithm that most people go by is this: IF <AnotherPerson> DID <something I would not be ashamed of doing myself> THEN Defend; ELSE Condemn; |
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