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General => General Technical Chat => Topic started by: eti on October 06, 2022, 01:48:06 am
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I’m watching a BBC series which is excellent, called “We are England”, all about the wide variety of aspects of British life. Really good.
What I can’t abide, though, is why the production team felt the need TO HAVE GIANT, BOLD TEXT PLASTERED ACROSS THE CENTRE OF THE SCREEN (centre X and Y axis) - some of it is then considerably smaller, but they make the titles “dance” - and by this I mean the sentences spelling themselves out in time with the incidental music… WHY?!?!?!? We don’t know or want to know how “clever” the editor thought he was, or how chuffed he is with THIS FLIPPING GIANT, almost full screen typeface!
The other night on one episode, they even told us that sheet steel is… <gasp>… METAL.
Yep, the titles read “… made of stamped sheet steel metal” 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
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BECAUSE YOU ARE ENGLAND!
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And this has what to do with engineering or technology?
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BECAUSE YOU ARE ENGLAND!
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😂🤣 ya got that right!
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And this has what to do with engineering or technology?
TV: Technology
Editing: Technology
Typefaces: Technology
The TV show itself: about factories, using ... technology.
What does the thread "post a picture of a cat" have to do with technology? Less than absolutely nothing. There are others too.
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And this has what to do with engineering or technology?
TV: Technology
Editing: Technology
Typefaces: Technology
The TV show itself: about factories, using ... technology.
What does the thread "post a picture of a cat" have to do with technology? Less than absolutely nothing. There are others too.
Except that you have an extensive track record of starting offtopic threads. And now you are just coming up with a "technology" angle to start them.
Please just stop it.
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What does the thread "post a picture of a cat" have to do with technology? Less than absolutely nothing. There are others too.
Shots fired.
The irony of Look At Me in a thread title.
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I find that gradient at the bottom more annoying especially if I am trying to seek to look at something.
(https://i.imgur.com/VeSCDxs.png)
If that is Iplayer I just remembered I found the elements last year to hide the gradient when I reported it to the BBC that it looked a lot better without it.
Player element name: smphtml5iframemediaPlayer
Adblock:
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##.p_gradientBottomfiller
I think it was just some footage from a news site with Iplayer embedded in it and as I found I coudn't see much when the controls appear with that overlay which seemed much worse than other players where it goes way past the controls covering about half of the video.
Fortunately I found it could be hidden but I am not sure if that is the same player.
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I find that gradient at the bottom more annoying especially if I am trying to seek to look at something.
(https://i.imgur.com/VeSCDxs.png)
If that is Iplayer I just remembered I found the elements last year to hide the gradient when I reported it to the BBC that it looked a lot better without it.
Player element name: smphtml5iframemediaPlayer
Adblock:
##.p_gradientLayer
##.p_gradientBottomfiller
I think it was just some footage from a news site with Iplayer embedded in it and as I found I coudn't see much when the controls appear with that overlay which seemed much worse than other players where it goes way past the controls covering about half of the video.
Fortunately I found it could be hidden but I am not sure if that is the same player.
That is the play/pause popup overlay causing the gradient, not visible when playing :)
Don't understand all the fuss in the thread - this IS TECHNOLOGY.
"General Technical Chat" - this IS generally technical - HELLO?
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And this has what to do with engineering or technology?
TV: Technology
Editing: Technology
Typefaces: Technology
The TV show itself: about factories, using ... technology.
What does the thread "post a picture of a cat" have to do with technology? Less than absolutely nothing. There are others too.
Except that you have an extensive track record of starting offtopic threads. And now you are just coming up with a "technology" angle to start them.
Please just stop it.
This IS technology. I understand, but it is still technology. "Track record" aside, if you want to treat people equally, regardless of my "track record", then a thread involving technical stuff (which this is) is still just that, regardless of who I am. I've seen FAR LESS technical threads left to continue.
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I've seen FAR LESS technical threads left to continue.
Those threads haven't existed solely for their OP to demostrate how angry and superior they can be about trivial stuff. As such, they have some value to other people too.
regardless of my "track record"
Your track record shows you either rant aggressively using baiting adjectives, or you need some help with something. Apparently you don't need help in this thread so we know it's purpose.
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And this has what to do with engineering or technology?
TV: Technology
Editing: Technology
Typefaces: Technology
The TV show itself: about factories, using ... technology.
What does the thread "post a picture of a cat" have to do with technology? Less than absolutely nothing. There are others too.
Typefaces are an art form. Editing is a skill or task. TVs are technology, but nothing here is about TVs, you’re whining about stuff that appears on them.
And note that the subforum’s title isn’t “general technology chat”, it’s “general technical chat”, which to me means it’s for “technical discussions about things”, which is not synonymous with “general discussions about technology”.
So cut the crap, dude. You know damned well that you aren’t even discussing technology (never mind in a technical way), you’re bitching about a TV show’s design choices.
Frankly, I’m surprised you haven’t been banned yet. You’ve been granted more leeway and gotten more warnings than many other troublemakers here have.
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I have no problem with people discussing off topic tangents on threads, I'm guilty of that myself. What I do take issue with is creating off topic threads for no other purpose than to complain about things that are off topic. Really it's incessant negativity that I have a problem with. "Post a picture of a cat" is off topic but at least pleasant and not confrontational, "xyz sucks and these people are idiots!" is neither on topic nor pleasant.
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And this has what to do with engineering or technology?
TV: Technology
Editing: Technology
Typefaces: Technology
The TV show itself: about factories, using ... technology.
What does the thread "post a picture of a cat" have to do with technology? Less than absolutely nothing. There are others too.
Except that you have an extensive track record of starting offtopic threads. And now you are just coming up with a "technology" angle to start them.
Please just stop it.
This IS technology. I understand, but it is still technology. "Track record" aside, if you want to treat people equally, regardless of my "track record", then a thread involving technical stuff (which this is) is still just that, regardless of who I am. I've seen FAR LESS technical threads left to continue.
I like the way you are arguing with the forum's owner, and with ill-conceived arguments to boot. Keep it up, since that will (eventually) make the forum a better place!
Don't, whatever you do, look at how many people thanked EEVBlog's post. Nor look at how many people are telling you that you are wrong. Nor improve your understanding and usage of the English language, allegedly your native language.
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I have no problem with people discussing off topic tangents on threads, I'm guilty of that myself. What I do take issue with is creating off topic threads for no other purpose than to complain about things that are off topic. Really it's incessant negativity that I have a problem with.
Yup; ditto.
"Post a picture of a cat" is off topic but at least pleasant and not confrontational, "xyz sucks and these people are idiots!" is neither on topic nor pleasant.
Possibly for dogs, but not for dog lovers >:D , and agreed.
Mind you, there are some portraits of people that I've been tempted to post in the cat/dog threads ::)
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"Post a picture of a cat" is off topic but at least pleasant and not confrontational, "xyz sucks and these people are idiots!" is neither on topic nor pleasant.
Possibly for dogs, but not for dog lovers >:D , and agreed.
Well what about for people like me who love dogs and cats? :) :popcorn: :scared:
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Possibly for dogs, but not for dog lovers >:D , and agreed.
I'm not particularly interested in dogs but a "post a picture of a dog" thread wouldn't bother me. Especially during the height of the pandemic when many of us were trapped at home with a lack of human interaction I could see where it made sense to bend the rules a bit to help us all stay sane. Now that things are getting back to normal and we have lots of options for more conventional social interaction I think it makes sense to push a little harder to keep things on topic.
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"Post a picture of a cat" is off topic but at least pleasant and not confrontational, "xyz sucks and these people are idiots!" is neither on topic nor pleasant.
Possibly for dogs, but not for dog lovers >:D , and agreed.
Well what about for people like me who love dogs and cats? :) :popcorn: :scared:
Response 1: I don't dislike cats[1] but don't see how people can like them for more than their mousing abilities (and my daughter's dog puts most cats to shame in that respect!)
Response 2: can't be expected to write explicit caveats for all the wierdos out there :)
[1] except when they are purring on my lap and also sinking their claws into my thighs, or vomiting birds up next to me on the sofa.
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Response 1: I don't dislike cats[1] but don't see how people can like them for more than their mousing abilities (and my daughter's dog puts most cats to shame in that respect!)
[1] except when they are purring on my lap and also sinking their claws into my thighs, or vomiting birds up next to me on the sofa.
Hahahaha been there, done that…
Response 2: can't be expected to write explicit caveats for all the wierdos out there :)
HEY! I resemble that remark! :P
(In all honesty, though I thoroughly enjoy both species, I like dogs a bit more. But I have considered getting a cat, because I want a pet, but I’m not in a situation right now where I could give a dog the attention it needs.)
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Possibly for dogs, but not for dog lovers >:D , and agreed.
I'm not particularly interested in dogs but a "post a picture of a dog" thread wouldn't bother me. Especially during the height of the pandemic when many of us were trapped at home with a lack of human interaction I could see where it made sense to bend the rules a bit to help us all stay sane. Now that things are getting back to normal and we have lots of options for more conventional social interaction I think it makes sense to push a little harder to keep things on topic.
Neither the cat nor dog threads either irritated or pleased me. I simply ignored them.
I presume there were no pathetic attempts to make the cat/dog threads "appropriate/relevant" to this forum.
One irritation I do have is that I sometimes look at a thread's title without looking at who is the OP. There are a small number of posters who can be relied on to start silly and ill-conceived threads. We all know who they are, and having some gentle fun at their expense isn't a bad response.
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.. tv show ..
There's your problem, right there.
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Response 2: can't be expected to write explicit caveats for all the wierdos out there :)
HEY! I resemble that remark! :P
You might say that; I could not possibly comment :)
(In all honesty, though I thoroughly enjoy both species, I like dogs a bit more. But I have considered getting a cat, because I want a pet, but I’m not in a situation right now where I could give a dog the attention it needs.)
Yes :( That's been my problem too. Now I'm retired many rescue centres think I'm too old to take a dog.
Fortunately daughter acquired a dog by default[1], and now I get to see that regularly. Fascinating creature, sharp as a tack. She reckons it is a grandparent relationship.
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Girl in shared flat got dog.
Six(!) weeks later girl left flat and left dog. (And they say men have commitment problems!)
Other denizen looked after dog as best he could.
A month later daughter arrived in flat with her hamster, and helped with the dog.
Denizen went to San Diego to get married, and fortunately left dog behind.
Happy relationship ensued, to both their advantage.
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"Post a picture of a cat" is off topic but at least pleasant and not confrontational, "xyz sucks and these people are idiots!" is neither on topic nor pleasant.
Possibly for dogs, but not for dog lovers >:D , and agreed.
Well what about for people like me who love dogs and cats? :) :popcorn: :scared:
Response 1: I don't dislike cats[1] but don't see how people can like them for more than their mousing abilities (and my daughter's dog puts most cats to shame in that respect!)
Response 2: can't be expected to write explicit caveats for all the wierdos out there :)
[1] except when they are purring on my lap and also sinking their claws into my thighs, or vomiting birds up next to me on the sofa.
Mine spend most of their time curled up on my lap or next to me on the sofa or bed. They provide companionship and affection, and I don't have to wonder what they really think or if they have ulterior motives. I think cats brains are wired much like the autistic mind, I feel like I relate to cats more so than I do with many humans. My observation has been that most people who don't like cats have never taken the time to get to know one. Cats are generally speaking introverts and don't warm up to new people right away, it takes a while before they will trust and open up to someone. Some cats are just jerks though, just like people they are individuals, no two cats are quite alike.
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Yes :( That's been my problem too. Now I'm retired many rescue centres think I'm too old to take a dog.
Seriously?!?
In the semirural north Florida town where my grandma lived out her final years (like so many retirees from the east coast and Midwest), her veterinarian had a rather charming arrangement: rehoming the pets of deceased elderly folks with other elderly folks. I mean, it sucks that it’s necessary, but sometimes it happens, and that way, widowed pets got to live out their days in a loving home instead of a shelter. Worked out great, too, for when an elderly person knew they wouldn’t outlive a puppy or kitten.
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Thread death on: October 6th 2022 at 0407 hours and 10 seconds.
Cause of death: Excessive off topic pet rambling
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Thread death on: October 6th 2022 at 0407 hours and 10 seconds.
Cause of death: Excessive off topic pet rambling
The thread was off topic rambling from the very start, at least pets are positive.
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Thread death on: October 6th 2022 at 0407 hours and 10 seconds.
Cause of death: Excessive off topic pet rambling
The thread was off topic rambling from the very start, at least pets are positive.
I still detect an error: this is LESS "off-topic" than cats!
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I still detect an error: this is LESS "off-topic" than cats!
You really think anyone but you cares?
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And this has what to do with engineering or technology?
TV: Technology
Editing: Technology
Typefaces: Technology
The TV show itself: about factories, using ... technology.
What does the thread "post a picture of a cat" have to do with technology? Less than absolutely nothing. There are others too.
Except that you have an extensive track record of starting offtopic threads. And now you are just coming up with a "technology" angle to start them.
Please just stop it.
This IS technology. I understand, but it is still technology. "Track record" aside, if you want to treat people equally, regardless of my "track record", then a thread involving technical stuff (which this is) is still just that, regardless of who I am. I've seen FAR LESS technical threads left to continue.
No, you are one of the biggest if not the biggest off-topic starters on this forum and we have given you much slack over the years. Just stop it.
It is clear that you enjoy pushing the boundry again and again for whatever reason it is. You seem to like to antagonise by pushing the limit of what you can get away with with new threads.
Don't make me create a seperate user category without the permission to start new threads, because you might find yourself as the first entry.
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But they do make a special (technology related) label:
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I still detect an error: this is LESS "off-topic" than cats!
You really think anyone but you cares?
I didn't start the cats topic, nor would I have started it, but I'd rather see a cats topic, or a dogs topic, or a plants topic, or any number of other non-technical topics that are positive than yet another bitter rant. Nobody likes constant negativity, it's something I have struggled with a bit myself at times and I get it, it brings people down. Some people are just so full of negative energy and contempt that it sucks the life out of a room.
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I still detect an error: this is LESS "off-topic" than cats!
You really think anyone but you cares?
I didn't start the cats topic, nor would I have started it, but I'd rather see a cats topic, or a dogs topic, or a plants topic, or any number of other non-technical topics that are positive than yet another bitter rant. Nobody likes constant negativity, it's something I have struggled with a bit myself at times and I get it, it brings people down. Some people are just so full of negative energy and contempt that it sucks the life out of a room.
i will agree and disagree.
Sometimes rants are useful, but only where there is a solid justification for the rant. Thus ranting against C++ can be justified, e.g. C++ is so grotesquely complex that the committee that misdesigned C++ refused to believe there are valid C++ programs that can never finish compiling, until Erwin Unruh rubbed their noses in it.
OTOH rants about personal preferences reveal more about the ranter than about the subject.
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i will agree and disagree.
Sometimes rants are useful, but only where there is a solid justification for the rant. Thus ranting against C++ can be justified, e.g. C++ is so grotesquely complex that the committee that misdesigned C++ refused to believe there are valid C++ programs that can never finish compiling, until Erwin Unruh rubbed their noses in it.
OTOH rants about personal preferences reveal more about the ranter than about the subject.
Rants have their place. If it's a technical rant, for example Eagle getting ruined by Autodesk, IoT hardware depending on cloud crap that gets shut down, corporate culture in tech/engineering jobs or anything like that, I think that's perfectly acceptable here. Ranting about some cosmetic issue on a TV show that has nothing to do with technology or engineering is not. That just seems like an excuse to vent and sling anger and vitriol around. It serves no purpose and contributes nothing of value to the community.
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I was trying to look for something but can't find it now. It was this documentary I saw many years ago posted in some thread here about a man who had a lot of equipment in this building that he used to insert text, signs and scrollers over video recordings that producers paid him to do in the early days of television. Maybe that might be appropriate for this thread if I could find it.
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I hardly think I was bringing “vitriol” into the subject. 😁 it’s a casual observation about giant text and editing styles. People constantly mentioning negativity and casually using “vitriol” when there was none, speaks a little more of those people; psychologists call it “projection”.
I’m very direct and blunt. That gets confused for “anger” or “vitriol”. Nope. It’s having a (sometimes too much) passionate, possible exaggerated way of expressing likes or dislikes. I’m not a hateful person … I hope. In fact anyone in REAL life can tell you I’m cheerful and so laid back as to be horizontal 🤣 - since the “wonders” of the internet STILL seem to have not been able to crack the lack of tone of voice in textual media, which we all know causes all manner of disagreements based on consistent lack of tonal expression, one can only say that you’ve got me wrong, no matter what you’ve surmised from the very basic assumptions you’ve made of both me and most others online, the majorly l of whom you’re never going to be able to know, or imagine “Ah yeah I know them, I can imagine how they’re speaking”.
I’m no one’s stereotype, nor are any of us, but having ASD factors into how I express myself, and since the severe lack in textual media cannot express nuances of conversation, I’m just left with the point I’m making, so I get right to it. Sorry if you perceive it wrongly, that’s never my intention to annoy.
It’s SO EASY and convenient to forget these things. None of us are perfect. I’ve seen some ACTIVELY ***VERY*** rude, arrogant and aggressive people here (there seems to be a disproportionate percentage of that type of person on here) but I generally just try and walk away, As I’m not going to lose my peace, for them (why would I do that, let a stranger spoil my day? Hah!) And besides, how do I know what’s happening in their life? Anyone can blame people, that’s the lazy man’s way out.
Yeah I can be blunt. I don’t apologise for who I am, but I apologise if you’ve misunderstood my motives.
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Well text doesn't translate tone very well, so I would suggest taking a moment to consider how something you write is going to be perceived by those at the other end who can't see or hear you. When I read posts like that I picture an angry bitter old man fuming and shaking his fist ranting and raving about kids these days and how the world has gone to hell in a handbasket and get off my lawn. That may not be the tone that is intended but that is how it comes across.
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Rants have their place. If it's a technical rant, for example Eagle getting ruined by Autodesk, IoT hardware depending on cloud crap that gets shut down, corporate culture in tech/engineering jobs or anything like that, I think that's perfectly acceptable here. Ranting about some cosmetic issue on a TV show that has nothing to do with technology or engineering is not. That just seems like an excuse to vent and sling anger and vitriol around. It serves no purpose and contributes nothing of value to the community.
If it's just a one-off then that's fine, no big deal, but when someone has a huge track record of starting new off-topic threads then that's when it becomes troublesome. At some point we can't let it slide any more.
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Yeah I can be blunt. I don’t apologise for who I am, but I apologise if you’ve misunderstood my motives.
I think your motives are irrelevant, can you please just stop starting new topics that are either off-topic, or borderline off-topic. I do have the means to disable your ability to start new threads, don't make me have to resort to that.
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Yeah I can be blunt. I don’t apologise for who I am, but I apologise if you’ve misunderstood my motives.
I think your motives are irrelevant, can you please just stop starting new topics that are either off-topic, or borderline off-topic. I do have the means to disable your ability to start new threads, don't make me have to resort to that.
Okay. I’ll have to check and double check before knee jerk posting. Sorry to have caused grief. Take care.
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i will agree and disagree.
Sometimes rants are useful, but only where there is a solid justification for the rant. Thus ranting against C++ can be justified, e.g. C++ is so grotesquely complex that the committee that misdesigned C++ refused to believe there are valid C++ programs that can never finish compiling, until Erwin Unruh rubbed their noses in it.
OTOH rants about personal preferences reveal more about the ranter than about the subject.
Rants have their place. If it's a technical rant, for example Eagle getting ruined by Autodesk, IoT hardware depending on cloud crap that gets shut down, corporate culture in tech/engineering jobs or anything like that, I think that's perfectly acceptable here. Ranting about some cosmetic issue on a TV show that has nothing to do with technology or engineering is not. That just seems like an excuse to vent and sling anger and vitriol around. It serves no purpose and contributes nothing of value to the community.
We seem to be in vitriolic agreement :0
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Yeah I can be blunt. I don’t apologise for who I am, but I apologise if you’ve misunderstood my motives.
I think your motives are irrelevant, can you please just stop starting new topics that are either off-topic, or borderline off-topic. I do have the means to disable your ability to start new threads, don't make me have to resort to that.
Okay. I’ll have to check and double check before knee jerk posting. Sorry to have caused grief. Take care.
That would be good practice to both first posts and to replies.
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That would be good practice to both first posts and to replies.
It is.
Whenever i want to post something controversial, i generally write the post or topic. But if i am not utterly confident that i really should post it, i copy it into a text file (or keep it sitting in the editor for forums that can save posts without posting them) and sleep a night over it.
Most of the time i either forget about it or deliberately delete my rant, and will never post it. :D
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Not only does the OP continually start off-topic threads, they're always just moaning about something or other being shit.
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When I read posts like that I picture an angry bitter old man fuming and shaking his fist ranting and raving about kids these days and how the world has gone to hell in a handbasket and get off my lawn. That may not be the tone that is intended but that is how it comes across.
This is the picture that comes up in my head when I read his rants:
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I suspect that the forum really doesn't have the ability to prevent users from spamming the sub boards. I suspect our friend has figured that out.
My $0.02
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Yep,
just check out the latest one. Good for a laugh or two. :-DD