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Re: Unusual design of a free-flow hydropower station
« Reply #150 on: January 31, 2024, 12:47:01 pm »
Feel free to continue your pointless spam posting of this technology, but no-one on this forum will give you any money.

I don’t know why you suddenly decided to talk about some kind of money, although there was not even a hint of this in my messages.
But you intrigue me. I'll think about it.


It seems I understand what you meant when talking about money.
This one ?

"The best place on the web to discuss crowd funded hardware projects!
Promotions allowed, just be ready for serious expert feedback."


But here they don’t give out money, they only “pump up” the project for potential financial attractiveness.
And they claim “serious expert feedback,” which I have not yet observed in my topic.

Well.
I'll try.
 

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Re: Unusual design of a free-flow hydropower station
« Reply #151 on: January 31, 2024, 12:48:56 pm »
While unnecessary messages were being deleted, this one was also deleted. I restore it from the cache.

And what ! I’ll go there, maybe they’ll say something useful. It says there - “be ready for serious expert feedback”
 

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Re: Unusual design of a free-flow hydropower station
« Reply #152 on: January 31, 2024, 04:49:20 pm »
While unnecessary messages were being deleted, this one was also deleted. I restore it from the cache.

And what ! I’ll go there, maybe they’ll say something useful. It says there - “be ready for serious expert feedback”

and when the expert feedback isn't that your magic "free-flow turbine" is the best thing since sliced bread and going to save the world, what do you do?
 

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Re: Unusual design of a free-flow hydropower station
« Reply #153 on: February 01, 2024, 04:26:32 am »
and when the expert feedback isn't that your magic "free-flow turbine" is the best thing since sliced bread and going to save the world, what do you do?

Well, first of all, this is not my “magic free-flow turbine”. It was made, as far as I can understand, in Romania and Serbia.
And secondly, the answer to your question has several options.

1. "the expert feedback isn't"
    - this means that there are no experts here.

2. "the expert feedback isn't that your not mine magic "free-flow turbine" is the best thing"
    - in this case I will contact the developers and write to them that this is bullshit

3. "the expert feedback is that your not mine magic "free-flow turbine" is the best thing"
    - then, what do you do?


The first two options are not for you, but please answer the last one if you don’t mind.

 :D
 

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Re: Unusual design of a free-flow hydropower station
« Reply #154 on: February 04, 2024, 07:03:55 am »
and when the expert feedback isn't that your magic "free-flow turbine" is the best thing since sliced bread and going to save the world, what do you do?

Well, first of all, this is not my “magic free-flow turbine”. It was made, as far as I can understand, in Romania and Serbia.
And secondly, the answer to your question has several options.

1. "the expert feedback isn't"
    - this means that there are no experts here.

2. "the expert feedback isn't that your not mine magic "free-flow turbine" is the best thing"
    - in this case I will contact the developers and write to them that this is bullshit

3. "the expert feedback is that the magic "free-flow turbine" is the best thing"
    - then, what do you do
?


The first two options are not for you, but please answer the last one if you don’t mind.

 :D

Well, will you speak out there as an expert?

Or are you afraid that point 3 will  work out?  ;D
 

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Re: Unusual design of a free-flow hydropower station
« Reply #155 on: February 04, 2024, 06:03:33 pm »
Hydro; I have read your post twice and it is not clear exactly what you require. I believe you really, really need right now is to eat some chocolate chip cookies, and I am reproducing a recipe below:

https://joyfoodsunshine.com/the-most-amazing-chocolate-chip-cookies/
 
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Re: Unusual design of a free-flow hydropower station
« Reply #156 on: February 04, 2024, 06:56:22 pm »
"These are everything a chocolate chip cookie should be. Crispy and chewy. "

Yup, that seals the deal, I need to try those. Thanks for the link.
 

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Re: Unusual design of a free-flow hydropower station
« Reply #157 on: February 04, 2024, 10:50:35 pm »
Hydro; I have read your post twice and it is not clear exactly what you require. I believe you really, really need right now is to eat some chocolate chip cookies, and I am reproducing a recipe below:

https://joyfoodsunshine.com/the-most-amazing-chocolate-chip-cookies/

Have you tried that recipe yourself and demontrated that it works as advertised?

Or is it just something you have seen on a random website and are mentioning it because you think it will (when experts understand it) revolutionise the art of cooking?  >:D
There are lies, damned lies, statistics - and ADC/DAC specs.
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Re: Unusual design of a free-flow hydropower station
« Reply #158 on: February 04, 2024, 10:59:47 pm »
I've tasked my cookie expert with validating the process. With a  bit of luck it'll take her several tries.
 
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Re: Unusual design of a free-flow hydropower station
« Reply #159 on: February 05, 2024, 08:37:39 am »
Hydro; I have read your post twice and it is not clear exactly what you require. I believe you really, really need right now is to eat some chocolate chip cookies, and I am reproducing a recipe below:

https://joyfoodsunshine.com/the-most-amazing-chocolate-chip-cookies/

Which post did you read twice?

This one ?


1. "there isn't the expert feedback "
    - this means that there are no experts here.

2. "the expert feedback isn't that the magic "free-flow turbine" is the best thing"
    - in this case I will contact the developers and write to them that this is bullshit

3. "the expert feedback is that the magic "free-flow turbine" is the best thing"
    - then, what do you do
?


Everything is written very clearly here.
I ask langwadt to participate in peer review of a technology if he considers himself an expert and takes responsibility to state anything about possible peer review.
Or is he afraid to be an expert?

schmitt trigger, re-read this post for the third and fourth time.
If even after this it does not become clear to you, then I cannot help you. Only cookies can help you.
 

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Re: Unusual design of a free-flow hydropower station
« Reply #160 on: February 05, 2024, 09:04:16 am »
I ask langwadt to participate in peer review of a technology if he considers himself an expert and takes responsibility to state anything about possible peer review.
Or is he afraid to be an expert?
Your peer review request is not genuine.  Calling someone afraid is not peer review, that's bullying.

Also peer review requires publishing article author names.  For some reason, you keep editing your articles and replacing the author names with ***@***.com
 

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Re: Unusual design of a free-flow hydropower station
« Reply #161 on: February 05, 2024, 09:52:35 am »
I ask langwadt to participate in peer review of a technology if he considers himself an expert and takes responsibility to state anything about possible peer review.
Or is he afraid to be an expert?
Your peer review request is not genuine.  Calling someone afraid is not peer review, that's bullying.

Also peer review requires publishing article author names.  For some reason, you keep editing your articles and replacing the author names with ***@***.com

No, what is called bullying is not my assumption, that my opponent afraid, but his comparison of “magic free-flow turbine” with sliced bread. And his desire to find out what I will do if the experts decide so.

I answered his question in detail - I gave him three possible options. But he doesn’t answer.

Yes, I expressed myself somewhat incorrectly about “peer review”. This is usually used for scientific articles.
But I just want to find out an expert assessment of the technology and the turbine that uses this technology.

But who wants to give a peer review of the article, then please, here is an article.

I do not have the right to publish their names and addresses here in order to ensure the most unbiased approach and not to make unnecessary advertising for the authors on the forum. This is the only reason not to advertise their names on this site.

And moreover, I can still conclude that this topic is very interesting to many, despite their statements that they left, unsubscribed and that they are not interested.
 

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Re: Unusual design of a free-flow hydropower station
« Reply #162 on: February 05, 2024, 10:00:12 am »
Purpose of a journal article is to clearly communicate the problem and solution. Since neither are presented clearly in that article it fails before needing to consider the illogical conclusions and claims.

Equally Hydro, if this is so interesting and groundbreaking why can its important points not be clearly communicated to others?
 

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Re: Unusual design of a free-flow hydropower station
« Reply #163 on: February 05, 2024, 10:31:01 am »
Purpose of a journal article is to clearly communicate the problem and solution. Since neither are presented clearly in that article it fails before needing to consider the illogical conclusions and claims.

Equally Hydro, if this is so interesting and groundbreaking why can its important points not be clearly communicated to others?
Maybe I'm wrong, then correct me, pls

It seems to me that the article quite clearly sets out the problem - to improve the free flow of hydroelectric power stations.
Solution - formulas were derived and the operating principle of such a hydraulic turbine was invented.

Explanations are given for its scale modeling taking into account the coefficients of hydrodynamic similarity - the Reynolds number and the Froude number.

I’m unlikely to be able to better convey the essence of the solution to the problem than was done in the article, which is why I posted all the articles and comments that there are on this matter.

If you see some illogical conclusions and claims, then I can try to answer them as I understand it.

Please....
 

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Re: Unusual design of a free-flow hydropower station
« Reply #164 on: February 05, 2024, 10:36:40 am »
I do not have the right to publish their names and addresses here in order to ensure the most unbiased approach and not to make unnecessary advertising for the authors on the forum. This is the only reason not to advertise their names on this site.
You have the right to publish the DOI of the article, for example:

https://doi.org/10.3390/en11020267
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.egypro.2017.10.181
https://doi.org/10.1115/1.1414137
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.rser.2015.06.023
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.seta.2019.100605
https://doi.org/10.1177/1687814015595339

DOI is the standard method of sharing articles, not edited screenshot images you made in photoshop or microsoft paint.

Please post the original DOI to your articles.

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Re: Unusual design of a free-flow hydropower station
« Reply #165 on: February 05, 2024, 10:52:14 am »
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Please post the original DOI to your articles

And perhaps chocolate cake recipes to go with the cookies.

Or maybe that's too much chocolate. I've heard that a lemon flan can be improved with chocolate, though.
 

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Re: Unusual design of a free-flow hydropower station
« Reply #166 on: February 05, 2024, 10:57:50 am »
I say it again

1. this are not my articles

2. we are not in a scientific journal here, but in a public forum.

3. even if it were not published in some journal, no one forbids discussing it here.

4. we are not discussing articles here, but technologies.

5. anyone who wants to write a peer review should contact the author or the  journal.

6. if I hid the name of the author of the article, it was only in order not to get involved with the author, but with the turbine, which is presented at the beginning of the topic
 

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Re: Unusual design of a free-flow hydropower station
« Reply #167 on: February 05, 2024, 10:59:31 am »
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Please post the original DOI to your articles

And perhaps chocolate cake recipes to go with the cookies.

Or maybe that's too much chocolate. I've heard that a lemon flan can be improved with chocolate, though.
Well, I thought the clowns were gone here.
But no, they're still alive  ;D ;D
 

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Re: Unusual design of a free-flow hydropower station
« Reply #168 on: February 05, 2024, 11:01:16 am »
5. anyone who wants to write a peer review should contact the author or the  journal.
I want to contact the author.  Please tell me the author's name or journal.  Or just provide the DOI, which will contain all the required contact information.
 

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Re: Unusual design of a free-flow hydropower station
« Reply #169 on: February 05, 2024, 11:08:23 am »
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Please post the original DOI to your articles

And perhaps chocolate cake recipes to go with the cookies.

Or maybe that's too much chocolate. I've heard that a lemon flan can be improved with chocolate, though.
Well, I thought the clowns were gone here.
But no, they're still alive  ;D ;D

"Man shall not live on fancy ideas alone". Although I think originally it was about bread, but times and technology move on.
 

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Re: Unusual design of a free-flow hydropower station
« Reply #170 on: February 05, 2024, 11:21:02 am »
5. anyone who wants to write a peer review should contact the author or the  journal.
I want to contact the author.  Please tell me the author's name or journal.  Or just provide the DOI, which will contain all the required contact information.
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/unusual-design-of-a-free-flow-hydropower-station/msg5266509/#msg5266509
 

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Re: Unusual design of a free-flow hydropower station
« Reply #171 on: February 05, 2024, 11:58:33 am »
« Last Edit: February 05, 2024, 12:02:06 pm by Hydro »
 

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Re: Unusual design of a free-flow hydropower station
« Reply #172 on: February 05, 2024, 12:00:49 pm »
5. anyone who wants to write a peer review should contact the author or the  journal.
I want to contact the author.  Please tell me the author's name or journal.  Or just provide the DOI, which will contain all the required contact information.

Regrettably that is becoming the starting point rather than an intermediate conclusion, e.g.
https://www.science.org/content/article/fake-scientific-papers-are-alarmingly-common

I wonder if the OP is aware of that phenomenon and/or choosing to exploit it?



Well, I thought the clowns were gone here.
But no, they're still alive  ;D ;D

Yes they are still here, as all but one poster realises.

Ludicrous posts engender ludicrous responses.
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There are lies, damned lies, statistics - and ADC/DAC specs.
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Re: Unusual design of a free-flow hydropower station
« Reply #173 on: February 05, 2024, 12:01:40 pm »
If you see some illogical conclusions and claims, then I can try to answer them as I understand it.

The original video has the description: "Безплотинная Мини-ГЭС Линева производит 11 кВт при скорости течения реки 1 м/с" or, in plain English, "damless mini-power station produces 11 kW at flow speed of 1 m/s".

This claim is exaggerated and illogical. I'd love to see your answer.
 

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Re: Unusual design of a free-flow hydropower station
« Reply #174 on: February 05, 2024, 12:05:46 pm »
In my opinion this is another article of the same autor.
It seems to me that there is a different address there.
Please provide the author or journal or DOI or contact details for the following article:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/unusual-design-of-a-free-flow-hydropower-station/msg5299339/#msg5299339
 


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