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Unusual design of a free-flow hydropower station

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Andy Chee:

--- Quote from: Hydro on January 15, 2024, 07:20:42 am ---
--- Quote from: Andy Chee on January 15, 2024, 06:57:43 am ---
--- Quote from: Hydro on January 15, 2024, 06:48:41 am ---I think it’s not a matter of vertical or horizontal axes, but the principle of transforming the flow of water.

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It matters A LOT!!!  The entire theory is based on "layers" of pressure caused by gravity.  Such layers are IMPOSSIBLE to extract energy from vertical axis!!!

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As far as I understand, the energy is obtained not from the axes (vertical or horizontal), but from the flow of water.
At the beginning of the topic, a machine with a vertical axis is shown.

It seems like you didn’t have any questions about it, except that it’s kinematically awkward.

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It shows that you don’t understand Mr GV Treshalov’s theory at all.

Hydro:
Have you figured it out well? What's my mistake"  ?
In Mr GV Treshalov’s theory there are no axes at all.
He only shows a “black box” under which anything can be hidden.

Andy Chee:

--- Quote from: Hydro on January 15, 2024, 07:51:24 am ---What's my mistake"  ?
In Mr GV Treshalov’s theory there are no axes at all.
He only shows a “black box” under which anything can be hidden.

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Your mistake is that you don’t understand  Mr GV Treschalov’s equations.

I understand his equations, and that’s why I know there’s a mistake.

Hydro:

--- Quote from: Andy Chee on January 15, 2024, 07:58:05 am ---
--- Quote from: Hydro on January 15, 2024, 07:51:24 am ---What's my mistake"  ?
In Mr GV Treshalov’s theory there are no axes at all.
He only shows a “black box” under which anything can be hidden.

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Your mistake is that you don’t understand  Mr GV Treschalov’s equations.

I understand his equations, and that’s why I know there’s a mistake.

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There are no “axes” in the equations and they are not taken into account in any way.
Please tell us how you understood them.

Share your knowledge with us.

Andy Chee:

--- Quote from: Hydro on January 15, 2024, 08:08:37 am ---
--- Quote from: Andy Chee on January 15, 2024, 07:58:05 am ---
--- Quote from: Hydro on January 15, 2024, 07:51:24 am ---What's my mistake"  ?
In Mr GV Treshalov’s theory there are no axes at all.
He only shows a “black box” under which anything can be hidden.

--- End quote ---
Your mistake is that you don’t understand  Mr GV Treschalov’s equations.

I understand his equations, and that’s why I know there’s a mistake.

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There are no “axes” in the equations and they are not taken into account in any way.
Please tell us how you understood them.

Share your knowledge with us.

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Mr GV Treshchalov's equations use gravitational potential difference (like all hydro systems).

A vertical axis turbine like your picture, has ZERO gravity difference between the upstream blade and downstream blade.  A vertical axis turbine does NOT rely on gravity, it relies on flow differential (which could be created with an obstruction, or hydrofoil blade geometry).

If you don't understand that, then you will definitely not understand the mistake he makes.

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