Unusual design of a free-flow hydropower station

[Hydro]

Звучит гимн Союза Советских Социалистических Республик:
(Attachment Link)

What is it ?
Is this in Polish?

It's the same language as Mr. GV Treshchalov.

Is he Polish or Serbian?
Like Nikola Tesla?

[Hydro]

In my opinion this is not Polish.
Polish doesn't seem to be Latin

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Budushchee-energetiki-Imploziya-vs-Eksploziya/dp/3659359793/ref=sr_1_1?qid=1704710531&refinements=p_27%3AGerman+Treshchalov&s=books&sr=1-1&text=German+Treshchalov


.... although the cover is not in Latin.
Is this Cyrillic?

[Andy Chee]

Звучит гимн Союза Советских Социалистических Республик:
(Attachment Link)

What is it ?
Is this in Polish?

It's the same language as Mr. GV Treshchalov.

Is he Polish or Serbian?
Like Nikola Tesla?

Ask Mr. GV Treshchalov yourself, his contact details are in your article.

A HIGHLY EFFICIENT METHOD FOR DERIVING ENERGY FROM A FREE-FLOW
LIQUID ON THE BASIS OF THE SPECIFIC HYDRODYNAMIC EFFECT
G.V. Treshchalov
Engineering and Research Group (“ERG”)
Kara-Kamish-2/1-3-43, Tashkent, 100098, Uzbekistan
Tel./fax: (99871) 2790590; e-mail: t-ger@mail.ru

[Hydro]

I don't see the need.
Whether he is a Pole or a Serb or anyone else - it doesn’t matter.

Did you write to him that you found errors in his formulas?

[Andy Chee]

I don't see the need.

Then why did you ask about language?

Did you write to him that you found errors in his formulas?

I don't need to write to him.  I'm not interested in his research.

[Hydro]

I don't see the need.

Then why did you ask about language?

Rhetorically

Did you write to him that you found errors in his formulas?

I don't need to write to him.  I'm not interested in his research.

Fine.
You won't wait for the continuation?
It's even more interesting there.

[Hydro]

I looked for his profile.
Is it him or someone else?

https://www.linkedin.com/in/germantreshchalov/

This is Uzbekistan, former Russia.

[Hydro]

I wanted to ask this question to everyone present.
Why does everyone understand the essence of the problem so differently?
Some are sure that there is no violation of the laws of physics here, and some for some reason think that some kind of “over-unity” arises here?

Can each of you describe on the basis of what inferences such conclusions are made and why?

[Hydro]

You won't wait for the continuation?
It's even more interesting there.

In my system this language is defined as Serbian. The automatic translation seems to be clear.

[Canis Dirus Leidy]

What is it ?

An article about a DIY free-flow power plant from an old Soviet magazine for secondary school age kids.

P.S. HTML-edition of this article and reincarnation from the Nineties (Вариант №3).

[Hydro]

Doesn't this look like their design?

[Andy Chee]

Doesn't this look like their design?

No.

Your first diagram is a vertical axis design.  Your Youtube video is a horizontal axis design.

They are completely different.

[Andy Chee]

I think it’s not a matter of vertical or horizontal axes, but the principle of transforming the flow of water.

It matters A LOT!!!  The entire theory is based on "layers" of pressure caused by gravity.  Such layers are IMPOSSIBLE to extract energy from vertical axis!!!

[Hydro]

I think the point is not in the vertical or horizontal axes, but in the principle of transforming the flow of water.
Does it look like that?
There are no axes at all.

[Hydro]

I think it’s not a matter of vertical or horizontal axes, but the principle of transforming the flow of water.

It matters A LOT!!!  The entire theory is based on "layers" of pressure caused by gravity.  Such layers are IMPOSSIBLE to extract energy from vertical axis!!!

As far as I understand, the energy is obtained not from the axes (vertical or horizontal), but from the flow of water.
At the beginning of the topic, a machine with a vertical axis is shown.

It seems like you didn’t have any questions about it, except that it’s kinematically awkward.

[Andy Chee]

I think it’s not a matter of vertical or horizontal axes, but the principle of transforming the flow of water.

It matters A LOT!!!  The entire theory is based on "layers" of pressure caused by gravity.  Such layers are IMPOSSIBLE to extract energy from vertical axis!!!

As far as I understand, the energy is obtained not from the axes (vertical or horizontal), but from the flow of water.
At the beginning of the topic, a machine with a vertical axis is shown.

It seems like you didn’t have any questions about it, except that it’s kinematically awkward.

It shows that you don’t understand Mr GV Treshalov’s theory at all.

[Hydro]

Have you figured it out well? What's my mistake"  ?
In Mr GV Treshalov’s theory there are no axes at all.
He only shows a “black box” under which anything can be hidden.

[Andy Chee]

What's my mistake"  ?
In Mr GV Treshalov’s theory there are no axes at all.
He only shows a “black box” under which anything can be hidden.

Your mistake is that you don’t understand  Mr GV Treschalov’s equations.

I understand his equations, and that’s why I know there’s a mistake.

[Hydro]

What's my mistake"  ?
In Mr GV Treshalov’s theory there are no axes at all.
He only shows a “black box” under which anything can be hidden.

Your mistake is that you don’t understand  Mr GV Treschalov’s equations.

I understand his equations, and that’s why I know there’s a mistake.

There are no “axes” in the equations and they are not taken into account in any way.
Please tell us how you understood them.

Share your knowledge with us.

[Andy Chee]

What's my mistake"  ?
In Mr GV Treshalov’s theory there are no axes at all.
He only shows a “black box” under which anything can be hidden.

Your mistake is that you don’t understand  Mr GV Treschalov’s equations.

I understand his equations, and that’s why I know there’s a mistake.

There are no “axes” in the equations and they are not taken into account in any way.
Please tell us how you understood them.

Share your knowledge with us.

Mr GV Treshchalov's equations use gravitational potential difference (like all hydro systems).

A vertical axis turbine like your picture, has ZERO gravity difference between the upstream blade and downstream blade.  A vertical axis turbine does NOT rely on gravity, it relies on flow differential (which could be created with an obstruction, or hydrofoil blade geometry).

If you don't understand that, then you will definitely not understand the mistake he makes.

[Hydro]

Where did you see some “horizontal” or "vertical" axes, if in the device at the beginning of the topic they are vertical ??
Do you have any doubts that it works? Open your eyes!

I repeat - there are NO AXES in his equations!
Where did you get them there?



If you don't understand that, then I don't understand at all - what are you doing here??

[Hydro]

Mr GV Treshchalov's equations use gravitational potential difference (like all hydro systems).

I think this is true.
Do you know that in all hydro systems that use gravitational potential difference there can be turbines with completely different axes - horizontal, vertical, longitudinal, transverse etc.
But none of the energy equations of hydraulic turbines are NEVER AFFECTED by the orientation of the turbine axes!
Do you know that ?

If you don't understand that, then I can't help you.

[Andy Chee]

But none of the energy equations of hydraulic turbines are NEVER AFFECTED by the orientation of the turbine axes!
Do you know that ?

If you don't understand that, then I can't help you.

I don't need help.  I am not attempting to promote a hydro design.

You however seem to need a lot of help, because you have convinced no-one.

[Hydro]

I understand you - you are "no one".
And you need help to understand that I AM NOT OFFERING ANY DESIGN.
It is offered by those who manufactured these turbines and those who wrote the article.
 
But I can't help you to understand it - sorry.

[Hydro]