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PlainName:

--- Quote from: tooki on November 13, 2023, 05:56:22 pm ---
--- Quote from: magic on November 13, 2023, 09:30:05 am ---A multi-vendor standard line of batteries would be the right step, but I doubt it's happening.

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Like this one that’s been around for years?

https://www.cordless-alliance-system.com/

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Only one I recognise from there is Metabo (and my only such tool from them is wired). Seems like the only way to get them all on board is to mandate something...
Monkeh:

--- Quote from: tszaboo on November 13, 2023, 07:48:58 pm ---I'm sorry, but I don't like bullshit
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Then please don't try and pass a 5V input boost converter off as a 48V input buck capable of safely charging and balancing a 5S pack at 8A.

You've not spent a lot of time working with power tools in real world conditions, I'm certain.
SiliconWizard:

--- Quote from: Simon on November 13, 2023, 08:44:16 pm ---
--- Quote from: wraper on November 11, 2023, 11:21:17 am ---
--- Quote from: AVGresponding on November 11, 2023, 10:50:38 am ---NB: You septics call 18V Li-ion batteries 20V, for some reason.

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Manufacturers call them so to begin with  :palm:. It depends on what voltage you take, nominal or fully charged. Also if we start nitpicking, septics do not talk, they collect excrements.

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No, it's an American thing, Bigger is better, our American group MD believes this bullshit. Dewalt sell in the US and Europe, same batteries in the US are 20V and Europe 18V, standards were established for a reason.

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I don't know if it's exclusivelty an american thing. But they did do the same crap even with software versions, look how inflated versions of web browsers have become ever since Google started ridiculous version numbers with Chrome. Everyone followed. Bigger is better, right? :-DD

And back to batteries, yes, using the max charged voltage as a marketing tool instead of the nominal voltage, is at best misleading.
magic:
Most mainstream browsers are American, and three of them from California to boot.
It was inevitable ;D
Siwastaja:

--- Quote from: tooki on November 13, 2023, 05:56:22 pm ---
--- Quote from: magic on November 13, 2023, 09:30:05 am ---A multi-vendor standard line of batteries would be the right step, but I doubt it's happening.

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Like this one that’s been around for years?

https://www.cordless-alliance-system.com/

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Not a true alliance either, it's just one large corporation and their compatible sub-brands are not competing with each other, they are just for different fields, most never-heard niche.

Real compatibility alliance would mean e.g. that Makita, Bosch, Milwaukee, Metabo, Panasonic (or whatever is their current name) etc. power tools would have cross-compatible batteries. Not going to happen by the free market.

Think about it: their "alliance" claims compatibility to over 300 machines, but to compare, Makita LXT alone says they have over 325 machines. This 300 is the magic number of power tools for any single manufacturer.
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