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USB-C charging law in the EU.
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thephil:
I think standardizing on a single type of charging port makes sense for most small devices – no more bags full of adapters to keep around. I am not as enthusiastic with respect to laptops because the USB-C plug is small and flimsy. I expect the USB-charging port on my notebook to break earlier/more easily in comparison to the old style plugs that had a bit more material to them.

Another, minor, downside is repair: I like to power defective devices from my lab power supply when tinkering with them. That no longer works with USB-C.
wraper:

--- Quote from: thephil on November 10, 2023, 01:44:15 pm ---I expect the USB-charging port on my notebook to break earlier/more easily in comparison to the old style plugs that had a bit more material to them.

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Depends on particular connector construction. IME more material/connector size has no correlation with durability.
tooki:

--- Quote from: ebastler on November 10, 2023, 11:18:18 am ---Frankly, I am only aware of one manufacturer who has not already migrated to USB-C charging ports, or has at least started the migration of new products from Micro-USB or barrel connectors a couple of years ago. So this seems to be largely a "Lex Apple" in practice.

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But Apple started its USB-C migration back in 2012, and as of right now, all the mainstream products are USB-C. (Some older models that remain on sale as budget options are still using Lightning.)
tszaboo:

--- Quote from: NiHaoMike on November 10, 2023, 03:45:46 am ---
--- Quote from: BeBuLamar on November 09, 2023, 04:01:44 pm ---To do so the BMS system as well as a boost converter is needed for devices that requires higher voltage than USB-C is capable to provide.

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USB-PD goes up to 48V for the latest version. More than that and just putting an IEC mains input on the device would make most sense in most cases.

--- Quote from: TimFox on November 09, 2023, 10:48:51 pm ---This EU press release has a list of objects that require USB-C charging:  https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2022/10/24/common-charger-eu-ministers-give-final-approval-to-one-size-fits-all-charging-port/
Question:  is that list exhaustive?
Mention is made of a later deadline for laptops.

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Seems odd to mention video game *consoles* rather than video game *controllers*. Are they trying to limit new game consoles to 240W of power use or was that a misprint?

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I think if a console has battery charging in it, limiting it to 240W is a reasonable request. Think about a PSP or a Oculus headset, not a PS5 or Xbox.
tooki:

--- Quote from: ebastler on November 10, 2023, 11:18:18 am ---Products can also have further proprietary charging ports in addition to USB-C, which I have seen on some HP notebooks. (Not sure why though -- maybe HP still had an excess of fixed 19V barrel-connector power bricks in their warehouse?)

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Right?!? My HP laptop included both the USB-C and barrel plug chargers. No clue why.
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