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USB-C charging law in the EU.
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tooki:

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--- Quote from: EPAIII on November 10, 2023, 04:05:38 am ---Bunch of busy-bodies with nothing better to do.

Why can't they just let the market decide how things are made? I smell a billionaire-wanna-be in the making here. Somebody is trying to reap some money. I don't know who, but somebody!

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Because as has been seen by, for instance, Apple - the market cannot be expected to self-regulate.  Why have a different charging port?  I like my phone, but there is seriously no reason for Lightning to exist any more.  It's less capable and more expensive than USB-C.

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Probably because whenever Apple changes a connector — even if for very good reasons — people and the media whine about Apple changing the connector, as if it were something they did every 5 minutes. :/
Siwastaja:

--- Quote from: wraper on November 10, 2023, 01:35:39 pm ---
--- Quote from: EPAIII on November 10, 2023, 04:05:38 am ---Why can't they just let the market decide how things are made?

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Then look at your healthcare system as example of how well "free market" works. Hint: no government pays nearly as much per capita and at the same time many manage to get free healthcare for every citizen. And even when it's 100% paid by patient it's still way less than insurance copayment in US.

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Yeah, or just the phones in general. There never was "free market" in the meaning "you can build product as you like", the design of a simple phone requires complying to thousands of pages of mandatory legislation, everywhere; and it's not just about electrical and fire safety and EMC compliance, but also environmental and social impacts which is exactly under which the charging port requirement falls.
Bud:

--- Quote from: wraper on November 10, 2023, 01:51:00 pm ---
--- Quote from: thephil on November 10, 2023, 01:44:15 pm ---I expect the USB-charging port on my notebook to break earlier/more easily in comparison to the old style plugs that had a bit more material to them.

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Depends on particular connector construction. IME more material/connector size has no correlation with durability.

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Not sure what you mean. Obviously USB-C is a fragile connector no matter how much materials you wrap around it. A slight vertical push on a plugged connector is all that us needed to bend and crack the mating part.
tooki:

--- Quote from: Bud on November 10, 2023, 02:27:06 pm ---Not sure what you mean. Obviously USB-C is a fragile connector no matter how much materials you wrap around it. A slight vertical push on a plugged connector is all that us needed to bend and crack the mating part.

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Nonsense. It’s not “obviously” fragile, nor is it independent of the “materials you wrap around it”. Smart manufacturers use molded or milled slots in a thick part of the enclosure to mechanically guide the plug, so that it’s the enclosure, not the socket, taking all the force. This has proven to be very reliable.
PlainName:
You can get right-angled USB-C connectors (Garmin do one, for instance). If snapped/bent connectors get to be an issue there will likely be a big market for pre-bent ones. So far they are available but not common. And there are only two formats, whereas pre-C need four due to the polarized connector.
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