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USB-C charging law in the EU.

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CJay:

--- Quote from: NiHaoMike on November 10, 2023, 03:45:46 am ---Seems odd to mention video game *consoles* rather than video game *controllers*. Are they trying to limit new game consoles to 240W of power use or was that a misprint?

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Does it meniton anywhere that you can only have one USB-C port for power only I can see how a 240W limit could easily be bypassed

CJay:

--- Quote from: wraper on November 10, 2023, 06:45:52 pm ---BTW I worked in mobile phone repair service for several years a bit more than a decade ago. And from repairing many thousands of phones I can say that micro USB connector itself was almost never damaged, even when ripped off the board (types with poor mounting). Also there were certain types of them with heavy TH mounting of which I haven't seen a single one damaged or ripped of the board. They were totally indestructible.

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I keep seeing this argument about USB-C connectors yet despite handling nearly 900 (I just checked, 896) laptops with associated USB-C chargers and accessories this year alone I'm yet to find one that's got a broken connector.

*edit* Also, a couple hundred phones with USB-C, still not one broken USB-C socket. A good number of screens mind...

Really makes me wonder what sort of gorilla you'd need to be to wreck one

I have seen a couple of damaged Micro USB connectors in phones, I think they resulted from people forcing the plug in the wrong way round.

tooki:

--- Quote from: Bud on November 10, 2023, 06:03:57 pm ---
--- Quote from: tooki on November 10, 2023, 02:34:36 pm ---
--- Quote from: Bud on November 10, 2023, 02:27:06 pm ---Not sure what you mean. Obviously USB-C is a fragile connector no matter how much materials you wrap around it. A slight vertical push on a plugged connector is all that us needed to bend and crack the mating part.

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Nonsense. It’s not “obviously” fragile, nor is it independent of the “materials you wrap around it”. Smart manufacturers use molded or milled slots in a thick part of the enclosure to mechanically guide the plug, so that it’s the enclosure, not the socket, taking all the force. This has proven to be very reliable.

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Proven? Bullshit with capital B.

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LMAO at your unfounded certainty.

I didn’t say that all USB-C ports have proven to be reliable, just the ones where the port is well protected by a thick, precisely manufactured and aligned enclosure.

P.S. The phrase “X has proven to be Y…” doesn’t mean ”proof” in the absolute sense; it simply means “X has demonstrated to be Y.”

vad:

--- Quote from: wraper on November 10, 2023, 01:35:39 pm ---
--- Quote from: EPAIII on November 10, 2023, 04:05:38 am ---Why can't they just let the market decide how things are made?

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Then look at your healthcare system as example of how well "free market" works. Hint: no government pays nearly as much per capita and at the same time many manage to get free healthcare for every citizen. And even when it's 100% paid by patient it's still way less than insurance copayment in US.

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Bad example. In the US, the healthcare system and health insurance industry have been heavily regulated since the era of FDR, and healthcare costs are significantly influenced by tort laws.

tooki:

--- Quote from: vad on November 10, 2023, 08:04:31 pm ---
--- Quote from: wraper on November 10, 2023, 01:35:39 pm ---
--- Quote from: EPAIII on November 10, 2023, 04:05:38 am ---Why can't they just let the market decide how things are made?

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Then look at your healthcare system as example of how well "free market" works. Hint: no government pays nearly as much per capita and at the same time many manage to get free healthcare for every citizen. And even when it's 100% paid by patient it's still way less than insurance copayment in US.

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Bad example. In the US, the healthcare system and health insurance industry have been heavily regulated since the era of FDR, and healthcare costs are significantly influenced by tort laws.

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Ehhhh... I don’t think you can say that. Healthcare products are no more or less regulated than in any other developed nation. And the US healthcare system is fairly lightly regulated compared to other developed countries.

Also, the effect of tort on the US healthcare system is not nearly as big as it’s usually made out to be. (I used to believe it was a major factor, but I’ve since come to learn this is not supported by the data.)

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