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| peter-h:
This is why cameras should support fast wifi but for some reason they don't... Also very much agree that USB-C insertion force is way too high and drives the wireless charging solution for phones. Especially in car holders, where if you push the phone hard enough to mate the USB-C you will pull the holder off its mounting :) I agree re PTH connectors being more robust but the problem is that phones use thin PCBs - probably 0.8mm - and that will just break off if the connector doesn't get ripped out of it. The correct solution is to secure the connector to the case moulding so it can't move. This is being done implicitly by e.g. Samsung whose recent phones are waterproof. Obviously they have to have the connector tightly gripped by the case moulding (integral to the case moulding actually) for that to work. |
| David Hess:
--- Quote from: peter-h on September 21, 2020, 08:26:22 am ---This is why cameras should support fast wifi but for some reason they don't... --- End quote --- I would like IrDA even more, but WiFi would be sufficient if I could get it for the right camera. Selection is very poor and the options I have considered apparently only support uploading to the Cloud which is stupid. The Cloud is a term for a server controlled by someone else. |
| Monkeh:
--- Quote from: David Hess on September 20, 2020, 10:52:06 pm ---Many recent standards have been mechanically horrid; SATA and HDMI both lack positive retention. With HDMI this might be considered a feature in an environment where the cord is likely to be pulled but I prefer that it not fall out of the back of my computer, which has happened several times. --- End quote --- You're right about HDMI, but SATA is fine - not only are locking cables readily available, it was designed as a backplane interface. Everyone is simply using it wrong. As far as USB-C goes, I have no idea what people are going on about with high insertion force - my experience is that it's lower than micro while retaining well. Nor has any fragility been a concern. But I'm not in the group of people who go through cables and ports every year or two.. |
| sokoloff:
--- Quote from: David Hess on September 20, 2020, 10:52:06 pm ---Many recent standards have been mechanically horrid; SATA and HDMI both lack positive retention. --- End quote --- SATA is a standard for a connector overwhelmingly (99.9+% I'd estimate) used inside of an enclosure. How much positive retention does it need? (Secondarily, I have SATA cables with a spring-retention lock that works pretty well and works across a wide variety of motherboards and drives, so I wonder if it is actually part of the standard and is merely optional.) |
| eti:
--- Quote from: sokoloff on September 21, 2020, 04:15:26 pm --- --- Quote from: David Hess on September 20, 2020, 10:52:06 pm ---Many recent standards have been mechanically horrid; SATA and HDMI both lack positive retention. --- End quote --- SATA is a standard for a connector overwhelmingly (99.9+% I'd estimate) used inside of an enclosure. How much positive retention does it need? (Secondarily, I have SATA cables with a spring-retention lock that works pretty well and works across a wide variety of motherboards and drives, so I wonder if it is actually part of the standard and is merely optional.) --- End quote --- Yeah, you're right - I mean why even bother with a connector shell, just rest the gold contacts on top of one another and wrap some gaffer tape round it ;D - okay I am being facetious, but as much as you try to defend SATA connector design, it's ABSOLUTELY DIRE, and well we know it. |
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