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peter-h:
That's a worrying description of US ISPs. Here in the UK you get nothing of the sort, AFAIK.

Surveillance at the ISP is implemented everywhere, via the big routers having a "monitoring port" which can be set up to monitor specific traffic and send it to the "national security agency". But in theory a court order is needed for that, so you need to be in their sights to start with.

ataradov:

--- Quote from: peter-h on May 10, 2021, 07:21:58 am ---That's a worrying description of US ISPs. Here in the UK you get nothing of the sort, AFAIK.

--- End quote ---

They just have not had a chance to make a public blunder out of it. There is no way they do not collect that information. In the contracts it is usually hidden under network performance improvement. Which is true to some extent, as knowing places you visit allows for better caching. But it is also a handy piece of information to sell to marketers.

News like this are not uncommon https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26430266 . Sure, involvement of government agencies implies the need for the court order. But only implies.

Zero999:
An important thing to consider is, although it's possible for your ISP to spy on you, they almost certainly never will. The information gathered will never be seen by a pair of human eyes. It will all be processed by a computer, without anyone seeing the inputs and outputs of the algorithm. The only exception will be if they detect something illegal, which will flag an alarm.

peter-h:
Yes I am sure that's true.

Also I would be amazed if GCHQ/NSA/etc needed a court order to intercept data. BT used to need one and probably still do, for (what was back then) a physical visit to the exchange to set it up. Nowadays call intercept is remotely set up. I would expect ISP traffic monitoring (copying) to say GCHQ needs a court order in theory but in reality they will have a system in place where they get a blanket approval for some general activity. Dragging a judge out of bed to sign a court order is going to be useless.

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