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TopLoser:
AZ 4 weeks ago and Pfizer yesterday. It’s France, who cares! Both gave me the same sore arm for a day, no other side effects.
Got my QR coded fully vaccinated certificate an hour after the last jab and will be using that to cross the border from France into Spain after the 7th June when they accept the certificate instead of a test result. Rest of the EU will follow on at the end of June and no more endless tests needed.
SeanB:
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--- Quote from: SeanB on May 29, 2021, 12:34:53 pm ---Easiest thing for the anti's
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Beware how you black and white label people.
There are huge numbers of people who are "pro vaccine" but hesitant to get an entirely new form of vaccine that still only has emergency approval status and is not yet fully approved.
I know many people like this personally, and I do not disparage them for it nor do I label them, because I know they aren't "anti-vaxxers".
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True, but even now with the emergency approval, the number who have side effects is minimal. 7 in a million dying after having it, and not for the usual reasons, is still a much better option than having at least 6 out of 100 dying from it. Lost 2 friends from it already, and at least a dozen people I know personally have died from it as well, including whole families.
I will take the vaccine, though here it is likely only going to be available some time between September 2021 to September never. Already made a booking with my local pharmacies if they get some in to call. Only people getting at the moment are those over 60, and healthcare workers, and the clotted cream. Even then slow delivery, and very variable numbers, plus of course we get the pleasure of having one strain named after us, and the other being present as well, along with the "common" type. You there on the Big Island are very lucky.
Plus the government here is not telling you to get it, it is free, and you are not forced to take it, though likely your employer will also give you the option of get it or find another job, seeing as in most cases you will want a healthy workplace.
Miti:
--- Quote from: SeanB on May 29, 2021, 12:34:53 pm ---BTW, I am alive thanks to vaccines, I would not have made it past 3 if it were not for antibiotics and tetanus shots, I still remember the red lines growing up my leg from that episode. Yes I still get a booster shot every 10 years or so for tetanus, and thankfully never had it ever again. Locally there was a move to knock down the century old stables and make it a soccer academy, wonder just how they are going to remove all the century plus of tetanus that is soaked into the walls, flooring, roof, and what they will be using as fields outside. Hope all the players are up to date on that shot.
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Funny that you mention the tetanus shot. I've got mild IBS from it. When I was a child I stepped on a rusty nail and the doctor gave me a tetanus shot. Soon after, my guts went crazy for few days. It never went away completely to this day. It got more tolerable, but never went away.
--- Quote from: SeanB on May 29, 2021, 12:34:53 pm ---Easiest thing for the anti's is simply to allow them to believe that, but also tell them the choice they made is going to mean that they will also be denied free hospital treatment if they get ill, solving the problem. They will have to pay the cash price, and will not be able to avoid the result by declaring bankruptcy afterwards.
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Can't agree with you more... but then we'll have to include the smokers, the drunk, the pot heads, those who eat at McDonalds and many other fast food restaurants, those that don't eat organic food, GMO and full of pesticides, those that don't exercise, the obese, those that don't follow a healthy sleep schedule... what else?
You're going down the rabbit hole pretty fast here.
I don't think the infectious diseases that the vaccines are meant to prevent are the biggest burden to the healthcare system.
I'm not debating this any more, I just wanted to present my point of view.
Miti out!
VK3DRB:
I got the first jab 10 days ago... Astra Zeneca. No issues. About one week from a phone booking to getting the jab. Our country had been pretty much virus free for several months.
But the Indian variant of the Chinese virus hit us a few days ago, and our state is now in full lock down for at least seven days because there are around 36 people infected. All the people who got complacent about getting the jab are now panicking and the government's online booking service has crashed - its a bit of a fiasco. I can sit back and relax and just work home. :popcorn:
nctnico:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on May 29, 2021, 01:08:17 pm ---
--- Quote from: SeanB on May 29, 2021, 12:34:53 pm ---Easiest thing for the anti's
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Beware how you black and white label people.
There are huge numbers of people who are "pro vaccine" but hesitant to get an entirely new form of vaccine that still only has emergency approval status and is not yet fully approved.
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That is a good point but the reality is that there is no good choice here. Short term it is clear that vaccinating people saves more lifes compared not doing so. Long term we don't know it yet. A number of people (starting from 20 years old!) who recover from Covid-19 appear to have long lasting effects from it and will require medical care and/or will be mildly disabled for the rest of their lives. We'll have to see how that balances against the long term effects from the vaccinations.
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