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| Miti:
--- Quote from: james_s on May 29, 2021, 06:35:15 pm ---I suppose a reasonable alternative is let people refuse to be vaccinated, but hold them legally liable if it can be shown that they transmitted the virus to somebody else who later got seriously ill or died. Charging them with negligent homicide seems reasonable to me in the case of someone dying, or sue for lost wages, medical expenses, etc. When a person makes selfish choices based on ignorance and misinformation that end up resulting in harm to others there should be consequences and it should hurt. --- End quote --- Would you be willing to accept the same punishment if within a year 40% of vaccinated develop autoimmune diseases? |
| Gyro:
Look at the situation in India (and some other countries) over the past few weeks and you realise that reasonably easy access to the vaccines and non-overwhelmed health systems is a privilege. It's fine for people to do the (rather obvious) maths when deciding whether or not to be 'coerced' into being vaccinated, but you need to remember that these Darwin award candidates, if allowed to reach sufficient numbers (due to conspiracy theories or whatever), increase the danger of taking others in the population with them. By clogging up the health systems they also take vital resources away from the treatment of all the other conditions that normally prey on us, Cancer, heart disease, etc. Of course there should be, and are, exceptions for people with specific medical risks (although with the range of different vaccines available, it ought to be possible to protect many of them). The people intent on exercising their 'free will' for no specific medical reason put these poor folks at increased risk too. It is essential to get the incidence of the virus in the population as low as possible (symptomatic or not) to minimise the number of mutations and new variants developing. We just need one new variant that successfully sidesteps the existing vaccines and we're all up shit creek (again). |
| JohnnyMalaria:
--- Quote from: Miti on May 29, 2021, 06:56:34 pm --- --- Quote from: james_s on May 29, 2021, 06:35:15 pm ---I suppose a reasonable alternative is let people refuse to be vaccinated, but hold them legally liable if it can be shown that they transmitted the virus to somebody else who later got seriously ill or died. Charging them with negligent homicide seems reasonable to me in the case of someone dying, or sue for lost wages, medical expenses, etc. When a person makes selfish choices based on ignorance and misinformation that end up resulting in harm to others there should be consequences and it should hurt. --- End quote --- Would you be willing to accept the same punishment if within a year 40% of vaccinated develop autoimmune diseases? --- End quote --- What's your basis for suggesting "40% of vaccinated develop autoimmune diseases"? Is that a Kennedy BS thing? |
| Zero999:
--- Quote from: Miti on May 29, 2021, 06:56:34 pm --- --- Quote from: james_s on May 29, 2021, 06:35:15 pm ---I suppose a reasonable alternative is let people refuse to be vaccinated, but hold them legally liable if it can be shown that they transmitted the virus to somebody else who later got seriously ill or died. Charging them with negligent homicide seems reasonable to me in the case of someone dying, or sue for lost wages, medical expenses, etc. When a person makes selfish choices based on ignorance and misinformation that end up resulting in harm to others there should be consequences and it should hurt. --- End quote --- Would you be willing to accept the same punishment if within a year 40% of vaccinated develop autoimmune diseases? --- End quote --- How many vaccines have had that higher risk of autoimmune diseases, after a year? As far as I'm aware, chronic health conditions due to vaccines tend to occur within the first couple of weeks of the dose, not spring up years later. The most risky vaccines are those which contain, attenuated, live virus, which isn't the case for any of the currently approved COVID-19 vaccines. |
| radar_macgyver:
One possible "market driven" approach would be for insurance premiums to go *way* up for people who choose to not be vaccinated (as opposed to people who can't for various medical reasons). That will very quickly incentivize the "muh freedoms" folks. The underwriters will have this info, so I'd be surprised if they aren't doing it already. |
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