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G7PSK:
At the beginning of the pandemic here in the UK the medical experts were saying that if we could achieve a 60%  herd immunity the pandemic would be over as the virus would no longer be able to spread. Well we are now at around the 60% mark for at least one shot of vaccine and along with the people who have had the virus we must be well over the 60% mark but the virus is still spreading at an alarming rate in some parts and is active all over the country so what of the herd immunity that was touted by some so loudly. 

TimFox:

--- Quote from: Zero999 on May 30, 2021, 08:19:45 pm ---
--- Quote from: TimFox on May 30, 2021, 08:09:32 pm ---The actual format of the US CDC vaccination card makes it clear that it was intended to keep the workflow organized, especially that both doses (when needed) were of the same vaccine and spaced apart by the required time.
There is a long tradition in the US of requiring vaccination, starting with smallpox.  The inoculation scar was its own evidence, but the microscopic needles for Covid vaccine (too small to pass microchips) leave no visible scar.

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The scar is nothing to do with the needle. It's caused by the immune system's reaction to the vaccine. I'm not old enough to have been vaccinated against smallpox, but the BCG vaccine caused a nice puss filled boil to form, which left a lovely scar.

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I’m old enough to have been inoculated for smallpox.  Instead of a single injection, multiple needle jabs were used, over a few square mm of skin.  The resulting scar (from the reaction) is still there after more than 65 years.   My point is that the clearly visible scar was used as proof-positive that the subject had been vaccinated.

JohnnyMalaria:

--- Quote from: G7PSK on May 30, 2021, 08:57:52 pm ---At the beginning of the pandemic here in the UK the medical experts were saying that if we could achieve a 60%  herd immunity the pandemic would be over as the virus would no longer be able to spread. Well we are now at around the 60% mark for at least one shot of vaccine and along with the people who have had the virus we must be well over the 60% mark but the virus is still spreading at an alarming rate in some parts and is active all over the country so what of the herd immunity that was touted by some so loudly.

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60% of having received the first dose is not sufficient. You need both doses plus a length of time (two weeks) before you can be considered immune. And that's only against the variants that the various vaccines are known to be effective against. The new surge in the UK is due to the Indian variant which the UK government for some insanely f**king dumb reason allowed to enter by allowing flights from India.

Now there's a UK-Indian hybrid just detected in Vietnam:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/new-hybrid-covid-variant-detected-in-vietnam/ar-AAKwoCz?ocid=uxbndlbing

Perhaps my fellow Brits should stay at home and stop swanning off around the world at this time.

BTW, the UK seems to have fallen behind on its vaccination program. I was surprised that only recently are people in their 30s getting their first dose. That means all the blitzed young people I see in photos outside pubs etc without masks have yet to receive their first dose. So you have a the least vaccinated group of people carrying on the behaviours most likely to spread the virus further.

radar_macgyver:

--- Quote from: JohnnyMalaria on May 30, 2021, 08:05:21 pm ---Prior to gaining US citizenship, I had to either prove I had received vaccinations against major diseases or had those diseases.

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Haha, I lost track of the number of MMR shots I had to get for the same reason. Hmm, maybe that's why I'm on the spectrum...

Ed.Kloonk:
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