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JohnnyMalaria:
Many people aren't aware that the common cold is also a coronavirus. The coronavirus very successful lifeform (debates aside as to whether our definition of "life" is appropriate) that has been on this planet for billions of years longer than we have. Mammals are but a blip in that time. There's a very good reason that the common cold is, well, common.

Nominal Animal:

--- Quote from: JohnnyMalaria on March 19, 2021, 01:20:48 pm ---Many people aren't aware that the common cold is also a coronavirus.
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In about 15% of cases, yes.  Most cases of common cold are caused by rhinovirus variants.

G7PSK:

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--- Quote from: Nominal Animal on March 16, 2021, 02:39:30 pm ---For example, if we use antibacterial detergents everywhere, and antibiotics for every bacterial and/or viral infection, then we actually provide evolutionary pressure for bacteria and viruses to evolve protection against them.  Superbugs (antibiotic-resistant bacteria) didn't just appear out of nowhere; we forced bacteria to evolve that way.

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I've heard some say that the above situation, rather than cause a new entity to evolve, instead wipes out all the weak versions and leaves the previously minority but very strong and therefore unaffected versions with the entire environment all to themselves so now they can multiply unchecked. Disclaimer - I have no particular understanding of these things.

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There was something a while back about UCL (university college London) and Oxford university trialling Astra zenica and Pfizer vaccine as a mix in various ways.

themadhippy:

--- Quote ---Astra zenica and Pfizer vaccine as a mix in various ways.
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will that allow my body  to receive 5g from multiple network providers instead of  being locked into one?

DrG:

--- Quote from: Nominal Animal on March 19, 2021, 01:52:19 pm ---
--- Quote from: JohnnyMalaria on March 19, 2021, 01:20:48 pm ---Many people aren't aware that the common cold is also a coronavirus.
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In about 15% of cases, yes.  Most cases of common cold are caused by rhinovirus variants.

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Although you have a good point with the numbers, this is typical GIS (Google-Induced Simplification) or, if you prefer, WIS (Wikipedia-induced simplification) and also FIS (Forum-Induced-Stupidity).

I am bringing it up because of your previous missive on what I would call "characteristic stupidity of humans" e.g., "Truth is, a very large fraction of all humans are utterly stupid." and "It's not a choice, it's a limitation they cannot help." I am one of those "stupid people" and so are you.

At one level, people learn about rhinovirus (oh yeah, that causes the common cold) and at one level people learn about some coronoviruses (some of them only cause the common cold) and draw a conclusion and spread it.....like a virus. He said "Many people aren't aware that the common cold is also a coronavirus." and you say "In about 15% of cases, yes.  Most cases of common cold are caused by rhinovirus variants.".

At yet another level, people learn even more...and go look for where people studied "people saying that they had a cold" and tried to figure out what the cause was, e.g., https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC104573/

Now, you can say, with evidence, that, yes, coronavirus causes the common cold and, narowly (52%), "most colds are caused by rhinovirus". But, if I were to say, the common cold can be caused by bacteria or the influenza viruses, folks would be all over my ass correcting me and so on and so forth...but I could cite the study as evidence supporting the statement.

Note also two previous studies (cited in the above study) found that rhinovirus was not the cause in over 50% of the cases (25% and 34%). I could also say that you can have a cold from multiple viruses at the same time including rhinovirus and coronavirus (Evidence of a double viral infection was found in 10 patients. Of these patients, three had both rhinovirus and coronavirus OC43...).


Indeed, the idea of a "common cold" as being some kind of a well-defined condition is a simplification. It is frequently a poorly defined collection of signs (observed by other) and symptoms (reported by the person) and usually an operational definition is invoked centering around upper respratory tract issues.

So, do you think that most people are too stupid to understand the concepts? I don't, but I am just happy if most people (99% or more) come to understand that 5G does not cause the common cold and I am not going to be the one to put a limit on what we can and can't understand as people (even if there are limits).

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