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| JohnnyMalaria:
Just to clarify, the purpose of my comment was to address a misconception that coronaviruses are some new-fangled Frankenstein creation born of human stupidity and that we have been exposed to coronaviruses all our lives often in the form of what we colloquially term the common cold. |
| Tomorokoshi:
--- Quote from: themadhippy on March 19, 2021, 03:53:44 pm --- --- Quote ---Astra zenica and Pfizer vaccine as a mix in various ways. --- End quote --- will that allow my body to receive 5g from multiple network providers instead of being locked into one? --- End quote --- Yes, it will*. * Roaming charges may apply. Quality of service not guaranteed. |
| jonpaul:
I Predict that vax will become obligatoire in EU, UK, this year, no options will be offered. Since variants evolve and new viruses are continuously created and released, expect a repeat yearly with a new vax required each time, like flu vaccinations. In 2021 I predict a government requirement for a digital health app to track all of this, with total government rights to use and indefinitely store every movement. Bon Courage, Jon |
| Nominal Animal:
--- Quote from: DrG on March 19, 2021, 04:07:38 pm ---Now, you can say, with evidence, that, yes, coronavirus causes the common cold and, narowly (52%), "most colds are caused by rhinovirus". But, if I were to say, the common cold can be caused by bacteria or the influenza viruses, folks would be all over my ass correcting me and so on and so forth...but I could cite the study as evidence supporting the statement. --- End quote --- Huh? Yes, common cold can be caused by bacteria or viruses. You're bashing me for what, my imaginary/invented/assumed opposition to a reasonable counterpoint? Get real. --- Quote from: DrG on March 19, 2021, 04:07:38 pm ---Indeed, the idea of a "common cold" as being some kind of a well-defined condition is a simplification. It is frequently a poorly defined collection of signs (observed by other) and symptoms (reported by the person) and usually an operational definition is invoked centering around upper respratory tract issues. --- End quote --- Fully agreed. In my understanding, "common cold" ≃ "the symptoms of upper respiratory tract infection". In many cases, the exact cause for the infection is not even that important: if the symptoms indicate the person ('s immune system) can cope with it with rest and fluids, there is no need to spend resources to find out whether the infection was due to a virus (or which virus) or bacteria. --- Quote from: DrG on March 19, 2021, 04:07:38 pm ---So, do you think that most people are too stupid to understand the concepts? --- End quote --- That's a completely different question: I referred to the complex relationships between causes and actions, and you are limiting to the concepts. You are twisting my claims into something you can attack. Don't do that. Undestanding a concept is not very important. You can catch a ball without understanding anything about ballistics, aerodynamics, fluid dynamics, et cetera. And vice versa: understanding and being able to describe exactly how a thrown ball behaves, does not mean you can catch a thrown ball. The people I've observed – and I hoped including a particularly frustrating/funny one would make it clear I am talking about observations and not predictions or assertions – are grasping for the easiest solution they can, and are actively ignoring anything that says that their chosen solution is not sufficient, and they actually need to do something more difficult/annoying/restrictive. A significant (but small, say 1 in 5 or fewer) do not even want to know anything about the causes, and are following directions blindly, based on respect for authority/celebrity. They are not looking for understanding, but the easiest way to avoid dealing with the underlying problems – like humans spreading viruses so well – by modifying their own behaviour. Perhaps the proper English term is "short-sightedness" or something else rather than "stupidity", but I described it as "stupid". --- Quote from: DrG on March 19, 2021, 04:07:38 pm ---I am not going to be the one to put a limit on what we can and can't understand as people (even if there are limits). --- End quote --- Do you understand the difference between an observation and an assertion? Because mine was the former, and you seem to be attempting to describe it as the latter. |
| MadTux:
--- Quote from: jonpaul on March 19, 2021, 04:59:13 pm ---I Predict that vax will become obligatoire in EU, UK, this year, no options will be offered. Since variants evolve and new viruses are continuously created and released, expect a repeat yearly with a new vax required each time, like flu vaccinations. In 2021 I predict a government requirement for a digital health app to track all of this, with total government rights to use and indefinitely store every movement. Bon Courage, Jon --- End quote --- Nice new world of shit, I guess if EU becomes new China, we'll soon have next civil war, because of an overhyped flu.... I won't play along, they stick their Wuhan flu vaccine syringes up their arses, but not into my arm. And I'm not anti-vaccine, if it's something really serious like rabit animal that bites me, I'd be at a doctor in no time, but playing along with plans for a new world order under the disguise of a pandemic, no thank you! |
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