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"Veritasium" (YT) - "The Big Misconception About Electricity" ?

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aetherist:

--- Quote from: eugene on February 14, 2022, 12:13:44 am ---Consider this: we take a pipe and stuff it full of marbles so that there is no room for any more.
Now stuff another marble in one end. What happens? Obviously an identical marble pops out the other end.
How long was the delay between when the first marble was stuffed in and the other one popped out? Don't need an exact number; was it fast or slow?
If you continuously stuff marbles in one end, what's the drift velocity of the marbles? How does this compare to the speed that the information got from one end of the pipe to the other?
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That is a good analogy for the theoretical speed of electricity due to drifting electrons, ie due to electrons being injected into one end of a wire.
I don’t think that i have ever seen a calculation for the faux-speed of (old) electricity, but it would come out to about c/100,000,000.
The delay for a marble popping out would be at least as long as the delay of a sound wave in a glass marble.
Google says that the speed of sound in glass is 2380 m/s or as much as 3962 m/s.
I think the delay for marbles would be say double the delay for a long solid glass cylinder. But lets say that the speed is 3 km/s, that is c/100,000.
If u used a copper pipe for the marbles, & if u injected an (old electricity) electron into the pipe at the same time as u injected a marble, then the two waves would race along at say 3 m/s & 3 km/s, & the faux-delay for the (old) electricity would be 1000 times the delay for the marble.
Interesting.

The drift speed of the marbles & the faux-drift-speed of the (old electricity) electrons would not affect this result.

But lets have a look at new electricity. We don’t inject an electron into the copper, we inject an electon onto the surface of the pipe. The electon hopefully goes straight along the pipe, at c/1 (if there aint much oxide corrosion on the pipe), in which case when the electon reaches the end of the pipe it will have a delay of 1/100,000th  of the delay for the marble(s), & 1/100,000,000th of the faux-delay for the old electricity electrons.

Alex Eisenhut:

--- Quote from: aetherist on February 10, 2022, 10:56:08 pm ---
I need to explain electons in more detail.


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But not the detail of how to spell them. Is English your native language? Are you related to Electrodacus by any chance?

aetherist:

--- Quote from: Alex Eisenhut on February 14, 2022, 03:49:34 am ---
--- Quote from: aetherist on February 10, 2022, 10:56:08 pm ---I need to explain electons in more detail.
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But not the detail of how to spell them. Is English your native language? Are you related to Electrodacus by any chance?
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When i gave the name Electon to my semi-confined photons that hug wires (my new electricity) i knew that that name would be problematical.
If u google "electon electricity" u get 117,000 results, most of them due to errors in spelling electrons (papers re electrons seem to have one such spelling error somewhere).
And the rest of the results relate to some companies or rockbands or cartoon character or items etc named Electon.

Perhaps i should have gone with Photron, my second choice.
Yikes, i just then googled "photron" & i got 853,000 results.

Mightbe its not too late to find a better name.
Lemmeseenow.  Heaviside is my hero. So, Heavitons. 284 results.
Heaviside says that the electric energy current surrounding a wire was thought to be due to the movement of charge in the wire. He said we reverse this -- the movement of charge in a wire is due to to the energy current surrounding the wire. The wire acts like a guide. So, Reversitons. 55 results.
Electons have a negative charge, so, Negitons. 945 results.


HuronKing:

--- Quote from: aetherist on February 14, 2022, 12:55:14 am ---All of Einstein's Relativity is rubbish. His spacetime is rubbish (actually i don’t think that he believed in spacetime either).

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https://www.sbs.com.au/topics/science/fundamentals/article/2016/01/08/why-einsteins-general-relativity-such-popular-target-cranks

SandyCox:

--- Quote from: aetherist on February 12, 2022, 10:08:29 am ---Either Pain is wrong or u is wrong.

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Is English your native language?

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