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"Veritasium" (YT) - "The Big Misconception About Electricity" ?
aetherist:
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--- Quote from: aetherist on February 22, 2022, 07:55:18 pm ---[...]
One problem with speed is that all metals have corrosion which must slow the electons (i mean the oxide, not the roughness). But if the threaded bar & plain bar are the same material then that might not be a big worry.
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Not all metals corrode at the same rate so some may even remain mostly oxide free for the duration of a test, a reasonably well controlled layer of oxide could even be incrimentally grown onto a test rod. Differrent oxides would have different properties, iron oxide is renowned for making things go slowly, so obviously thats the first candidate. Green copper oxide is a pretty fast colour, though not as fast as chrome oxide. Nickel is a wildcard.
Finally, I think I'm understanding this theory.
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Seriously, there are Nobels waiting here. A 2 page paper getting a Nobel. We would share the money. And SandyCox would be happy to nominate us.
HuronKing:
--- Quote from: aetherist on February 22, 2022, 09:19:40 pm ---Yes i steer clear from any quantum stuff. Hence i dont understand it. However i think that it uses aether. I am ok with models that give good numbers. But i cant argue re Q stuff. Does it use any kind of relativity? Does it use E=mcc?
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You... you don't know anything about 'quantum stuff' and yet you want to sit there and write gobbledeegook about photons and electrons? Have you never heard of the Dirac Equation until just now?!?!
Yes... yes quantum physics does use E = mc^2... that's the basis of nuclear fission/fusion. For such a self-proclaimed genius I am astounded at your apparently profound ignorance of something high school students learn.
How anyone is taking your crankery seriously is more remarkable than anything else in this thread to date.
--- Quote ---But Einsteinian stuff in the modern super accurate era, & computer era, is failing.
I am not sure how aetherwind might affect CERN. If they did observe aetherwind they would of course never report it. They would invent some kind of excuse. In fact they are so clever that they would have no trouble finding a way to use that excuse to once again prove Einstein. Why defend when u can attack. Oh, wait, if forgot, they could score 3 home runs with the one hit, they could throw in a Nobel nomination. Whether they were awarded the Nobel would be another matter, i mean there are so many faux-discoveries out there, its like having umpteen gangs trying to rob the same bank on the same day.
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And like all cranks - your ultimate bastion is to accuse numerous independent international laboratories of a century long conspiracy. >:D
--- Quote ---STR is krapp -- & GTR is mostly krapp.
We are presently in the Einsteinian Dark Age of science -- but the times they are a-changin'.
The aether will return -- it never left.
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:-DD :-DD :-DD :-DD
TimFox:
By the way, the behavior of conduction electrons in a solid metal wire is governed by quantum mechanics.
A long time ago (1928), Dirac expanded quantum mechanics to include special relativistic conditions: see the "Dirac equation", which is the relativistic form of the original Schrödinger equation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirac_equation
One of my former co-workers, for purely political reasons, did not "believe in" biological evolution or quantum mechanics. I told him he would have to stop using solid-state electronics, which depends on quantum mechanics to explain its operation.
aetherist:
--- Quote from: TimFox on February 22, 2022, 09:27:23 pm ---By the way, the behavior of conduction electrons in a solid metal wire is governed by quantum mechanics.
A long time ago (1928), Dirac expanded quantum mechanics to include special relativistic conditions: see the "Dirac equation", which is the relativistic form of the original Schrödinger equation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirac_equation
One of my former co-workers, for purely political reasons, did not "believe in" biological evolution or quantum mechanics. I told him he would have to stop using solid-state electronics, which depends on quantum mechanics to explain its operation.
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So, Dirac reckoned that electricity in a wire was explained by the Jellium sea of electrons in matter.
And he reckoned that aether in vacuum was explained by a sea of electrons in the vacuum.
I think i will stick with my aether, & my electons.
Having a model to give numbers is not the same thing as having a model to show reality. Your friend is allowed to say that he does not believe in QM, as a reality thing, while believing that it gives good numbers.
And u are using silly logic when u say that QM explains the operation of solid-state electronics. The operation of something is a real thing, it aint just the using of math-equations for pseudo-waves to give quasi-numbers for faux-reality.
TimFox:
This reminds me of the Catholic Church's rejection of Copernican astronomy (later, of course, improved by Galileo and Kepler) because they did not want to believe in a non-geocentric Solar System.
However, Copernicus' De revolutionibus orbium coelestium was allowed in Jesuit libraries because it gave better numbers than Ptolemy's Almagest.
The "operation of something" is measured and described by numbers, not hypothetical angels dancing on the head of a pin. This is the purpose of experimental proof.
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